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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Walker’s getting some very good advice about what the US worker needs to hear.


4 posted on 04/25/2015 10:03:00 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

One thing I’d really like to know is, why did he not notice the group calling itself Voces de la Frontera, Voices of the Frontier (of Mexico) operating in WI, very far from the real frontier of Mexico, since 2002?

One would think that when your state has been colonized to the point of having foreign groups who think the frontier of Mexico extends to WI that one would notice before now.

I’m encouraged that he’s woken up, but my eyes have been open to the disaster of unchecked illegal immigration for years, where has he been?


10 posted on 04/25/2015 10:11:06 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: grania

I agree with you. I just don’t trust Walker fully-—yet! Bob


24 posted on 04/25/2015 10:27:59 AM PDT by alstewartfan (It's the superannuation of a love affair that never quite got started. Al Stewart "Pictures in Wine")
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To: grania

I think this was a good populist move, because the real problem is legal immigration. However, it doesn’t really impact “the American worker” (understood as basic laborer) very much, because the downturn in illegal immigration, which has been so reduced that construction companies in my area could no longer find laborers and that fields were going unpicked, has not been filled by a surge of Americans wanting these jobs. Most Americans at that level are already making a decent living on a combination of welfare and unpunished crime, so why should they work for a living?

What has happened is that this has spurred automation. Fields in California (and soon in Florida) are being harvested entirely by machines now, including delicate crops such as strawberries, and even fast food places are automating. The reduction in legal Latin American immigration (thanks to Obama, who gave their quotas to people from “Muslim lands”) and better border enforcement has meant that stoop laborers have been disappearing, and as they did, companies simply compensated by developing robots that can do the job. And they developed them very quickly, because the technology was already there and just needed refining.

So I think Walker’s strategy was an attempt to make a populist pitch for a consideration of the real problem, which is the fact that the current legal immigration policy simply does not favor the United States. I’ve been saying this all along.

Legal immigration is the problem. Illegal immigration is an enforcement problem, not a policy problem.

But at the same time, it is also related to the policy problem, because immigration from Latin America that was once legal suddenly became illegal after Obama took office. One of his very first moves was, via executive order, to reduce the number of legal immigrants from Latin America and give that quota to people from “Muslim lands.” So suddenly legals became illegals.

And the reason I say that the American worker really isn’t involved in this is that the new immigrants won’t be competing, because they are brought in and not expected to work. They immediately go onto the welfare rolls or special progams established for them. The Tsarnaevs, for example, were legal immigrants although they had not always bothered to keep up with the paper work, and they lived mostly on welfare and crime. Occasionally they’d get marginal jobs and they were even attending college, thanks to Uncle Sam, but like many “immigrants” from these places, their fundamental hatred of the US and the West prevented them from doing anything except festering in their own insanity and dreaming of taking over the US for themselves.

So what needs to be discussed is what the United States needs in LEGAL immigration overall, and also, there has to be an honest review of the track records of the immigrant groups we have welcomed. Somalis? A number of terrorist attempts or plans. Chechens? Likewise, and some of the Chechens have actually carried them out. And we won’t even go into the huge number of Pakistani and Afghani plots that have failed, thanks to their incompetence.

The only common thread is Islam, of course, but I guess we can’t discuss that.

In the early days of formal immigration, when you came through Ellis Island, you just had to have the address of a family member who would put you up, a modest amount of cash in your pocket, and at least a lead on a job. Oh, and not have TB...

Nowadays, you don’t have to have any of the above, and it’s probably considered discriminatory to test for communicable diseases. And anyway, if you’re in the politically correct group, the only way you’re going to threaten the American worker is by making his taxes rise since you don’t plan to work anyway and he will pay to support you.

That’s what we need to discuss.


30 posted on 04/25/2015 10:33:22 AM PDT by livius
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