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Desalination plants aren't a good solution for California drought
LA Times ^ | April 25, 2015 | Michael Hiltzik

Posted on 04/25/2015 7:34:42 AM PDT by Mean Daddy

As surely as the hot, dry Santa Ana winds bring blue skies to the coast and wildfires to the hills, severe California droughts bring calls to build desalination plants up and down the seashore.

All that ocean water, begging to be converted to fresh and pumped into our pipelines, would solve our water supply problems instantly and permanently, boosters say. In the coming months, the drumbeat will only get louder.

That's not only because the current drought is the longest and most severe in memory, but because a $1-billion desalination project scheduled to start operating in Carlsbad this fall will be attracting lots of attention. The plant, the largest of its kind in the U.S., is designed to provide San Diego County with about 50 million desalinated gallons a day, about 7% of its water needs.

"A lot of people are watching what's going to happen in Carlsbad," says Peter MacLaggan, the executive overseeing the project for its developer, privately held Poseidon Water. "They're going to base their future decisions on the success of this project."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Nevada; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: california; communist; desalination; desalinationplants; drought; hiltzik; latimes; michaelhiltzik; water
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Don't know what to say. Build a dam then.
1 posted on 04/25/2015 7:34:42 AM PDT by Mean Daddy
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To: Mean Daddy

I’ve never heard any desalination proponent claim that desal would “instantly” solve the water shortage.


2 posted on 04/25/2015 7:40:08 AM PDT by Bob (No, being a US Senator and the Secretary of State are not accomplishments; they're jobs.)
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To: Bob

I agree. They’re not built to fill your pool, but people will want to equate it it as such.


3 posted on 04/25/2015 7:42:52 AM PDT by Mean Daddy
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To: Mean Daddy

The cost of water from same doesn’t look too bad, ~ 3x other sources. As for ecological impact ...... consider LA itself.


4 posted on 04/25/2015 7:43:15 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Bob

the water won’t be available for 10 years so it’s obviously better not to do it.....


5 posted on 04/25/2015 7:43:57 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Mean Daddy
Santa Barbara, (desal plant) completed in 1992, the rains had returned; the facility went through a few weeks of pilot testing, then was mothballed and partially dismantled.

That is not true. Ionics operated the plant and sold water to the City for a period of time so as to recoup their investment. This was a contractually agreed to requirement.

(I worked with Ionics at the time and my employer (Ingersol Rand) sold much of the equipment that was used for the plant.)

6 posted on 04/25/2015 7:45:19 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (If Hillary was running against Satan, I'd probably abstain.)
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To: Mean Daddy

Lefties: and Stop trying to remove the existing Klamath River Dams that produce , green, electrical energy and water to farmers.

Stop flushing fresh water to allegedly save a few smelt fish.

Stop trying to steal so much of your neighbors’ water.


7 posted on 04/25/2015 7:46:22 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Mean Daddy; EveningStar
As big industrial facilities, desalination plants can't be plunked down just anywhere on the coast without destroying the qualities that attract people to the shoreline.

This is what it comes down to. The rich snots don't want lose their million dollar views of the Pacific.

I say put the plant right in the heart of the Malibu Colony. Those folks are among the most obnoxious people on the face of the planet.

And as far as the California Coastal Commission is concerned -- it is time to end it's reign of terror. Close it.

8 posted on 04/25/2015 7:48:37 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Paladin2
Why not admit that Cruz blew the vote (whether intentional or not is irrelevant)?

Exactly. You've learned to think like an enlightened Democrat ;-)

9 posted on 04/25/2015 7:49:07 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Mean Daddy

Will all you poor, ugly, untalented, resource-snatching people just get the hell out of California!

Your Democratic Party gods demand it!


10 posted on 04/25/2015 7:49:42 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Bob

Bob, that’s what’s called a straw man argument. Politicians and journalists have raised it to an art form.


11 posted on 04/25/2015 7:52:04 AM PDT by Walrus (I love the America that used to be ---I hate the America that now IS!)
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To: Mean Daddy

Desalination plants will never work in California.

It’s too far from the ocean...


12 posted on 04/25/2015 7:52:06 AM PDT by null and void (He who kills a tyrant (i.e. an usurper) to free his country is praised and rewarded ~ Thomas Aquinas)
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To: george76

It’s ok to die of thirst as long as my beachfront property or view of the Pacific Ocean isn’t impacted.

This is the LA Times reasoning? They provide no answers, as usual. No realistic solutions, as usual.

But I Would be willing to bet the same author approves of a 100 billion dollar train to nowhere.


13 posted on 04/25/2015 7:52:40 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (two if by van, one if by broom)
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To: null and void

They can only be powered by windmills, right?

(but not windmills which block the view of the beautiful people)


14 posted on 04/25/2015 7:53:46 AM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: Mean Daddy

“would solve our water supply problems instantly and permanently”

Utterly typical lib argumentation tactic. Nobody at all is saying that desal plants would any problem instantly. You can ignore the rest of the article.


15 posted on 04/25/2015 7:53:54 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: Mean Daddy

It's working just fine in Tampa, FL, and providing 25 million gallons of fresh water a day.

16 posted on 04/25/2015 7:55:14 AM PDT by JPG (Lefty reporters doing battle with Sen. Cruz will continue to be chewed-up and spit-out.)
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To: Mean Daddy

Stop heating buildings in SFO with drinking water steam.


17 posted on 04/25/2015 7:57:12 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Mean Daddy

A much better idea is to waste billions on a high-speed rail.


18 posted on 04/25/2015 7:58:56 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Mean Daddy
Let's take a look at the hard realities. As big industrial facilities, desalination plants can't be plunked down just anywhere on the coast without destroying the qualities that attract people to the shoreline.

And there you have the real reason: the well to do that live on the coastline don't want their views spoiled. And besides, If more water is available it will just attract more people to California.

19 posted on 04/25/2015 8:00:00 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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Yeah! Screw desalination plants and clean water! More money for the choo-choo bullet train and benefits to illegals!

"California....knows how to party. California...knows how to party! In da city....city of Compton. We keep it rockin! We keep it rockin!" < /Tupac >

20 posted on 04/25/2015 8:02:02 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (ANYBODY BUT FRICKING JEB AND HILLARY)
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