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To: VinL

My mom is a legal immigrant from Deutschland, and she supports Ted Cruz.

There is some really dumb stuff being said in this thread about legal immigration.

If a person goes through all the steps required by our laws and actually has something to offer this country by their presence here, why shouldn’t they be allowed to come?

I want our laws enforced, and I want these waves of illegal aliens stopped cold turkey. No country in the world allows this, and neither should we.

But legal immigration? Yes.


55 posted on 04/24/2015 5:00:18 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: chris37
So you celebrate the legal immigration of hundreds of thousand of Muslims into the USA?. That's a good thing?

California's legal-immigration driven change to a one-party state? Does that get a "Yes" from you too?

65 posted on 04/24/2015 5:06:21 PM PDT by Dagnabitt ( Islamic Immigration is Treason)
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To: chris37

Seriously you want to just keep feeding the destruction of America?

Are you old enough to remember what it was like here before these 10s and 10s of millions of foreigners, came in to empower the American left and destroy our culture, language and national identity and turn us into a welfare nation slipping into chaos and incompetence?


87 posted on 04/24/2015 5:17:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: chris37
If a person goes through all the steps required by our laws and actually has something to offer this country by their presence here, why shouldn’t they be allowed to come?

That's not the issue. How many of them should we allow to come every year? Should the number of legal immigrants have some connection with our jobs and skill needs?

Walker is talking about limiting the numbers of legal immigrants given the fact that we have the lowest labor participation rates in 38 years. Who defends the interests of American workers? If we had a shortage of labor, wages would be increasing, not declining.

Do you think there should be any limits to the numbers of legal immigrants?

90 posted on 04/24/2015 5:18:29 PM PDT by kabar
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To: chris37

Hispanic relative to European immigration into America has something 50:1.

Do you believe that Hispanic immigrants overall are 50:1 likely to be more skilled than European immigrants in general.

I haven’t heard Cruz say he is going to undermine unskilled immigration which won’t exactly align to general ethnic pandering on immigration.


92 posted on 04/24/2015 5:18:44 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: chris37

How much of a net benefit should the immigrant bring?

If an immigrant is arguably only 5 or 10% more efficient in terms of work and being law abiding in the community that’s not much of a net benefit.

I would argue many of the lawful immigrants are on par with American workers and are being let in when their economic contribution isn’t a net positive.

There’s no way the people who work at USCIS have the time or bother to go through millions of applications to work out which ones will be bring a net positive.


97 posted on 04/24/2015 5:21:20 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: chris37

“But legal immigration? Yes.”

How many? We take about 1.2 million a year now. Cruz says he wants to nearly double that. If Cruz thinks it’s a good thing to double it, wouldn’t it be even better to quadruple it?

We’ve recently taken in more legal immigrants than the rest of the world put together. What do we have to show for it other than more crowded roads, prisons, and schools? And welfare/social security/medicare/Medicaid systems already teetering on bankruptcy?

The great majority of the increase in our population is fueled by immigration. We’re over 300 million people now. At what point can we shut the immigration spigot down—500 million? One billion? Will we be a better country then?


161 posted on 04/24/2015 6:24:25 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: chris37
If a person goes through all the steps required by our laws and actually has something to offer this country by their presence here, why shouldn’t they be allowed to come?

Because the unemployment rate it the USA is really high and we cannot assimilate what we have now. It is ridiculous not turn the immigration facet off now, everyone with an iq above room temperature can see that. Besides it is stupid to import socialist we have enough already.

429 posted on 04/26/2015 6:42:59 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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