[Cronos]

Caww post 26: Don't play down Polands role in this or any other country that went along to get along with the Nazi's...and I speak of the citizenship...not just the leaders"

Cronos post 68: With due respect, your statement is wrong on many, many levels

1. Poland ceased to exist in 1939 -- Hitler wanted it and its people exterminated. He hated Poles just after Jews
2. Poland never officially surrendered, there was NO collaborationist government unlike France or Norway.
3. Poles who were not of German origin did not support the Nazis -- at the very least for the simple reason that the Nazis wanted to exterminate the Polish nation as well as the Jewish nation (oh and btw, many Poles of German origin didn't support the Nazis either)
4. Poland as a nation did not "get along with the Nazis" -- please read the history, it was occupied and torn apart. It was neither an ally like the Estonians or Lithuanians or Hungarians nor a collaborationist state like the Norwegian or French. It was a torn apart nation
5. The leaders fought against the Nazis. Even during the occupation -- WHO spread word to the Western world that a massacre was going on? The Polish partisan AK (and the West ignored it) -- WHO gave aid to the Jews in the ghettos and camps and even had a Jewish division (The Bielski brigade)? The Polish partisan AK? -

And the Warsaw Ghetto uprising of 1943 was supported by Poles -- the GErman officer in charge of the liquidation wrote

When we invaded the Ghetto for the first time, the Jews and the Polish bandits succeeded in repelling the participating units, including tanks and armored cars, by a well-prepared concentration of fire. [...] The main Jewish battle group, mixed with Polish bandits, had already retired during the first and second day to the so-called Muranowski Square. There it was reinforced by a considerable number of Polish bandits. Its plan was to hold the Ghetto by every means in order to prevent us from invading it. [...] Time and again Polish bandits found refuge in the Ghetto and remained there undisturbed, since we had no forces at our disposal to comb out this maze. [...] One such battle group succeeded in mounting a truck by ascending from a sewer in the so-called Prosta [Street], and in escaping with it (about 30 to 35 bandits). ... The bandits and Jews – there were Polish bandits among these gangs armed with carbines, small arms, and in one case a light machine gun – mounted the truck and drove away in an unknown directiom

And finally A year later, during the 1944 Warsaw Uprising, Batalion Zośka, one of the most notable Polish insurgent units, liberated hundreds of Jews from the Gęsiówka section of the Warsaw Concentration Camp

Please do read the history, caww

Reply from caww? crickets

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then Caww (post 113 in reply to something else): I will not admit to saying anything wrong.

[caww]

Cronos...I am familiar with your volumes being posted previously...and that you enjoy schooling people... I’m just not up for your lessons of which I’m familiar enough with the topic to form my opinion without yours repeating them...But thank you for your interest.
BTW...not responding to a post doesn’t always mean crickets....sometimes it’s hint.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

Maybe caww is embarrassed by the fact that Nazism sprang forth from Lutheran-majority Germany. 2/3 of German Christians were Lutheran, and 1/3 Catholic.