Posted on 04/19/2015 8:42:15 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
WARSAW (Reuters) - Poland has summoned the United States' ambassador in Warsaw over an article written by a top U.S. intelligence official on Poland's alleged responsibility for the Holocaust during World War Two, a foreign ministry spokesman said on Sunday.
The article by FBI director James Comey, published in the Washington Post earlier this week, prompted an outcry in Poland and drew condemnation in the media and from politicians.
A foreign ministry spokesman said on his Twitter account that the U.S. ambassador would be summoned to the ministry over the article, and that Poland would demand an apology.
Comey said in the article: "In their minds, the murderers and accomplices of Germany, and Poland, and Hungary, and so many, many other places didn’t do something evil. They convinced themselves it was the right thing to do, the thing they had to do."
Poland says the passage wrongly implied it was complicit in the Nazi genocide of European Jews.
Poland's ambassador to the United States said in a statement the remarks were "unacceptable", adding that he had sent a letter to Comey "protesting the falsification of history, especially ... accusing Poles of perpetuating crimes which not only they did not commit, but which they themselves were victims of."
Shortly after Poland's announcement, U.S. Ambassador in Warsaw Stephen Mull told reporters he would attend a meeting at the foreign ministry on Sunday afternoon. . .
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Praise Putin that at least the 3rd Rome remained a virgin.
One person who cleverly took advantage of Poland's hatred for the Jews was Bohdan Khmelnytsky. His Ukranians managed to get the Christians in the fort to kill the Jews also defending the fort. Then, Khmelnysky double crossed the Christian Poles after they killed their fellow Jewish defenders and slaughtered the Christians in the fort, too. There was also those Polish Cossacks in the 1200s who cut Jews open, put a cat in the Jew's body and sewed it up again. The Germans chose well in building the death camps in Poland.
-Yes, the Nazis were anti-communists, but they were and ARE in favor of big government — so economically they are left, socialist.
You parrot a disingenuous ploy that attempts to portray conservatives as anti-fascist by caricaturing the ‘socialist’ in National Socialist. Capitalism that is too big to fail is fascist whether in enterprise or government. The size of government is not the issue. The issue is that both too big to fail capitalism and marxism lead to a police state, period. Both are the enemy for free humans.
This attempt at sanitizing conservatism is pure David Irving. Conservatism is germy as hell. Read Carrol Quiglye’s “Tragedy and Hope” and don’t tell me just because Bill Clinton read it, it is contaminated. It is a scholarly revelation of the dirty dealings of the CAPITALIST ARISTOCRACY. Yah, that’s right, capitalist aristocracy, the sort of social arrangement this nation fought its revolution against.
Let me offer a new take on jurisprudenct for “capitalists” of the aristocratic variety- if your gambling jones destroys the retirement fund of over 100 people, you get a “capital” punishment. These peckerheads have been getting away with murder and need to face a consequence proportional to their exploitation. If you and I were somehow in reciept of a 50 million dollar “bonus”, I’m sure we could find something more useful to use it for than a yacht or an arabian horse breeding ranch. You or I would probably endow a university or create a scholarship fund for young geniuses.
>>I know there were horrible individuals amongst the Poles, anti-semitism is the European national pastime, and certainly Poland wasn’t exempt. But they tend to be picked on more than the others, because the Nazis chose to build their death camps on Polish soil, and also that Poland suffered under the Bolshevik boot as well, with many Poles killed or shipped off to Siberia....So when the Germans came into the the areas formerly occupied by the Soviets, they found an audience willing to take their version of events and accuse the Jews of supporting the Bolsheviks. It’s a tragic tale all around. No other occupied country faced with the Poles did, not even close.
Unfortunately, Marxism was actually and provably a Jewish phenomenon. Even worse, 90% of the bolshevik boots on the ground during the Red Terror of the post October revolution period, the ones prototyping Nazi death camp methods in Moscow and St. Petersburg, were Jews. Much of the strength of this demographic for the dirty work (that they volunteered for) needless to say, was the result of generations of Cossack pogroms against the Jewish shtetles. Google the term “revaunchist”.
Nobody is clean, nobody gets to wash their hands.
Netflix the movie “The Chekist”.
Yet Stalin hated Jews with a passion. And it was the Polish Communist government that kicked out most of Poland's remaining Jews.
Communism is always evil.
Capitalism is neutral, like a gun. It’s people that make Capitalism good or bad. There is good capitalism, there is bad capitalism, there is no such thing as good Communism or good Fascism.
This will give you an idea of just how many would have collaborated.
>>Himmler was scary crazy — I compare him to Beria and Timur-e-Lang in his blood thirst. He was a real monster.
Reinhard Heydrich could trump Himmler any day of the week as the archetype SS ubermensch. Europe is fortunate that he died from his wounds after a brave assassination operation.
Heydrich was also a brilliant, yet evil man, probably the most intelligent of the whole lot. Some speculate he would have been Hitler’s choice to succeed him.
>>Yet Stalin hated Jews with a passion. And it was the Polish Communist government that kicked out most of Poland’s remaining Jews.
Yah, it’s complex and not understandable via cartoon versions of history. The Jewish bolsheviks were also vulnerable to manipulation by Jewish banker elements in the west who were, gasp, anti-bolshevik. Are you familiar with the term “mole operative” or “hidden agenda”. These banker aristocracy elements largely manipulated their governments to team with Czarist aristocracy elements, support the Whites in a counterrevolution and actually send western troops in an invasion of Russia in the post WWI era. Stalin was a bureaucratic infighter with the instincts of a fox and the ruthlessness of a hyena. He destroyed more marxists in his mania for subverting global marxist movements and uprisings under the strategic banner of “Socialism in one country” (Google it) than any western anti-marxist FBI or unofficial right wing banana republic death squad.
The problem is in the way we categorize a dynamic history with static terminology. Hell, Republicans were originally anti-slavery and anti-aristocracy. Look where they are now.
I didn’t know — thank you for pointing it out
>>Communism is always evil.
>>Capitalism is neutral, like a gun. It’s people that make Capitalism good or bad. There is good capitalism, there is bad capitalism, there is no such thing as good Communism or good Fascism.
This is the sort of cartoon thinking that has basically underwritten the defeat of conservatism globally and why every other post on FR bitches about liberal setting of the cultural agenda. Think of yourself as “old school” and simply obsolete. Your thinking handed the liberals their victory. Nice going.
btw, the Khmelnitsky movement slaughtered many Jews (considering them allied t the Poles
And you saying "Polish Cossacks" is like saying "Italian Moors" -- you do realise that Cossacks were bandits living in what is now Ukraine and were not "Poles"
>>Heydrich was also a brilliant, yet evil man, probably the most intelligent of the whole lot. Some speculate he would have been Hitler’s choice to succeed him.
Yah, he had a genius and a single mindedness that bears investigation. Dusty Sklar’s “The Occult Reich”, for all its faults, starts digging into the foundation stones of fascism. Google “Wewelsburg Castle”. Google “Savitri Devi” Lots to learn if we’re to turn the flank. Smarter Faster.
There have been some bright people commenting on this thread. Let’s start an FR think tank.
>>Heydrich was also a brilliant, yet evil man, probably the most intelligent of the whole lot. Some speculate he would have been Hitler’s choice to succeed him.
Heh, he would have eventually killed Hitler in a putsch in another “Night of the long knives”. I think Himmler was afraid of him. That’s why he was sent to the styx in Czechoslovakia, to get him out of Berlin where he could not effectively intrigue a new government.
I guarantee NOBODY in the SS or Gestapo shed a tear when Heydrich got killed, but he was Hitler’s “Golden Boy” so they couldn’t touch him.
>>I guarantee NOBODY in the SS or Gestapo shed a tear when Heydrich got killed, but he was Hitler’s “Golden Boy” so they couldn’t touch him.
Well, the uber sharks know an uber shark when they see one. He made a lot of enemies for certain, but was too effective to manipulate out of the picture. His organizational skills were astounding and met with success wherever he set his gaze. Had he lived, I’m sure he would have made one of the dozen or so German officer plots to assassinate Hitler successful and orchestrated a treaty with the west to end the war and join forces against bolshevik Russia. I mean, that’s the real reason Hitler was wound up and set loose upon the world by the circus of back channel intrigues of international capital.
No. it didn't at all! Poland was the only country in the world that never persecuted Jews.
And Jews? Jews themselves are the best demonstration to the words I say and confirmed that with their “legs”, as we Poles use to say. Why legs? Because Poland was the country the Jews preferred to go and settle for a thousand years. And? In 1939, the half of the world Jewish population lived in Poland. DOES IT RING A BELL WITH YOU, MR HATER OF THE POLISH?
In 1938 Poland was THE ONLY, I say again, THE ONLY COUNTRY in the world that adopted Jews who were expelled from Austria and Germany, while in the same time the USA DIDN'T ALLOW the German ship with Jewish refugees to enter any American harbor. As a result, they had to go back to Nazi Germany, some straight to the concentration camps.
If you have an access to German newspapers of that time, look it up and see for yourself for a real psychopathic Germany's response to Poland's opening borders to Jews. But then again, for guys like you, wherever you are, facts mean nothing, I suppose.
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