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The marriage apocalypse
Hot Air.com ^ | April 15, 2015 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 04/12/2015 8:44:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

No, this isn’t an article on what you’re probably thinking. It’s true that much of the press these days is focused on whether or not too many people want to get married, (i.e. “Teh Gayz”) but there is a less advertised current of concern over the idea that marriage in general is on the decline and may, in fact, be on the way out. I noticed one editorial at CNN on the subject which cites some rather interesting statistics. It’s easy enough to dismiss the piece out of hand because the author is CNN anchor Carol Costello, but given the importance of the subject I’m not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Is there a future for our country, as the author suggests, where we see an America virtually marriage-free, with everyone happily single?

There is a video available of a small focus group discussion she held with a bunch of millennials (including many young women) who were asked to share their feelings, plans and dreams regarding matrimony. If the results are in any way common among young folks today it’s more than a little disturbing.

“I didn’t go to college for four years to be a mom,” 21-year old Candace Monacelli told me. “There’s no housewife degree. I’ve worked my butt off for four years to get this degree. You want to use it. You want to be successful. You want to have that happy part of your life as well.”

Jackie Demate, also 21, agreed. “I would have a very hard time justifying spending $20,000 on a wedding when I could go to Europe.”

First of all, when you’re talking to 21 year old students or recent graduates I think you’re skewing the pool of respondents a bit. Even the subset of kids who are talking about marriage as a possibility at that point probably includes a fair number who only think of it as a hypothetical. While it was very common in my parents’ and grandparents’ generations, getting hitched straight out of your teens is far less common today, and that’s probably a good thing. (I should pause here and note with respect that my paternal grandparents were married before either of them would have been old enough to vote under today’s laws and they lasted until grandma’s death more than 75 years later. It happens, folks.)

Putting past generations aside for the moment, the younger you get married, the tougher it can be in the modern world. How many kids have really matured by the age of 21 to the same degree that folks had to manage during more hardscrabble times? Jumping in too early can probably add to the inherent stress levels if the couple continues to evolve in their attitudes and desires and they “grow apart.” But even if they wait longer, there are no sure bets in life. In some other parts of the world, people seem to have wandered further and further away from the idea that marriage is a cornerstone of a successful society.

Perhaps it is selfish to establish a career, travel and have a child on your own. Or, maybe it’s exactly right.

Scandinavians are just about there. According to USA Today: “In Norway … 82% of couples have their first child out of wedlock. The numbers are similarly high for Sweden and Denmark. While many couples marry after having the first or second child, it’s clear marriage in parts of Scandinavia is dying.”

The article also points out that “Norway ranked first and Sweden second in the United Nations’ quality-of-life survey for 2004, which rates per capita income, education levels, health care and life expectancy in measuring a nation’s well-being. The USA came in eighth.”

Pardon my skepticism, but I don’t think I’m going to entrust the United Nations to be the ultimate judge of “quality of life.” I would venture to say that Norway and Sweden both have more than their fare share of problems as a society, and if people seem happier there are government controlled factors behind at least part of that.

In the end, I think the species could certainly survive without marriage, but I’m not sure if the society would. I don’t think that anyone has to get married, nor should the government force them to, but the basic family unit certainly benefits from a stable home which lasts for multiple generations and keeps the clan safe and close. Whether you view marriage in the light of a person’s relationship with God or simply from some inner need for a deeper, more spiritual commitment which will last a lifetime, I believe it answers some fundamental need which exists in all of us. You can live without if if you have to (or choose to) but it will probably remain one of those “holes” in your life which will stare back at you across the years.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: family; marriage
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1 posted on 04/12/2015 8:44:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

When someone says ‘quality of life’....they tend to think that you can assign numbers to life and find some trend that indicates happiness or negativeness....depending on the state, region or country you live in.

Having been around dozens of regions of the US, an area or two of Central America, and forty-odd regions of Europe in my life....I will attest to the logic that a guy can be awful miserable in some area, and the guy next to him can be the happiest guy in the world. Three feet apart, and a world of difference. The guy who thinks this can all be brought down to numbers and an entire society making or breaking the happiness or quality of life barrier....is wrong.


2 posted on 04/12/2015 8:51:16 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Kaslin; windcliff

40 years married, retired, financially secure and never happier in my whole life.


3 posted on 04/12/2015 8:57:56 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Kaslin

The destruction of society begins with the destruction of the family.


4 posted on 04/12/2015 9:15:18 AM PDT by logic101.net (If libs believe in Darwin and natural selection why do they get hacked off when it happens?)
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To: Kaslin
"There's no housewife degree. I've worked my butt off for four years to get this degree."

A journalism degree at Kent State? Sorry, your idea of "working your butt off" is not impressive. You're only fooling yourself.

5 posted on 04/12/2015 9:19:57 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Kaslin

Yes. Just ask Christer and Annie Johannsen how happy they are in that nannified state called Sweden.


6 posted on 04/12/2015 9:20:23 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: Kaslin
I know how I was at 21. If I was married at 21, I'd be divorced by the time I was 22.

Marriage requires maturity and people mature at different times, with some not maturing at all.

7 posted on 04/12/2015 9:23:49 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (We need a conservative electable candidate in 2016)
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To: onedoug

No one is financially secure in this particular era....your financial security depends on past economic factors that can no longer be relied on. 100’s of trillions of debt guarantees that no one’s property or wealth is secure!


8 posted on 04/12/2015 9:30:55 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (If Hitler, Nazi, OR...McCarthy are mentioned in an argument, then the argument is over!)
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To: pepsionice
When someone says ‘quality of life’....

On a somewhat related note, I love it when detractors of the U.S. make comparisons to European countries in respect to crime. That's when I point out the fact that the violent crime rate among Norwegian-Americans is much the same as the violent crime rate in Norway. So many of America's statistics are skewed by demographics.

9 posted on 04/12/2015 9:53:37 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: Kaslin

I am an old guy...my Grandchildren, of both daughters are not marrying, in their late 20s and early 30s....a number of my friends’ Grandchildren, same age group, not married no children....say we are looking at 20 Grandchildren, none are interested in children or marriage...and for that matter, not interested in the future...maybe I should say, unaware of the future....

Meanwhile the Muslims are busy populating the world....


10 posted on 04/12/2015 9:57:06 AM PDT by B212
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To: onedoug

One can never be financially secure.


11 posted on 04/12/2015 10:15:45 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: Kaslin

Never trust kids talking about their future, because they don’t know. Adults don’t know either, but we’ve generally gotten smart enough to know that so when you do ask our answer is usually a big shoulder shrug. I had no intention at all of ever getting married... then I met the right somebody, and we’ve been married 23 years.


12 posted on 04/12/2015 10:20:52 AM PDT by discostu (Bobby, I'm sorry you have a head like a potato.)
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To: Kaslin

Abandoning marriage creates a void, guess what fills in that void....bigger government.


13 posted on 04/12/2015 10:23:17 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Darren McCarty

Very good point. I was not fit to marry at 21, nor for quite a long time after that. Finally married at 45, and I’ll stay married while we both live.


14 posted on 04/12/2015 10:24:33 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: onedoug

35 years of marriage, next January. I remember being single. I was not a happy person. I was a lonely person.


15 posted on 04/12/2015 11:34:00 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Kaslin
I think the species could certainly survive without marriage, but I’m not sure if the society would.

This is it in a nutshell. And of course, destroying the JudeoChristian society is the entire point of the Marxist sexual revolution. Free people live in strong families where discrimination takes place, and children are taught religion! The horrors!

16 posted on 04/12/2015 11:39:00 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The greatest danger facing our world: the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons.-Netanyahu)
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To: mdmathis6
No one is financially secure in this particular era

When everything went ker-fluey in 2008, hubby had, had a dream (nightmare) where he was sitting on the edge of the bed and he was realizing that everything he had could be taken away from him. Shortly after that, crash, our 401K became a 201K and he was wondering if he was ever going to be able to retire. He was in his mid-50's by then. Things are a little better now; but, he is still thinking 70s before he can retire with enough savings.

So, when young kids in your office are wondering why that old geezer isn't retiring so people can move up --- well, that crash is why.

17 posted on 04/12/2015 11:39:41 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Albion Wilde

Which is precisely why it is impossible to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Social and fiscal policies are joined at the hip.


18 posted on 04/12/2015 11:41:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jeff Chandler
the violent crime rate among Norwegian-Americans is much the same as the violent crime rate in Norway.

And the pc diversity policing, muslim immigration, muslim no-go zones and muslim-on-blond rape jihad in Sweden are out of control.

Also, both countries have let their feminists take over. They are worse there than here, if that's possible. They won't even use the traditional "-son" or "-sen" ("son of") ending on their names, preferring the dorky "-dottir" ("daughter of") ending, such as "Johannsdottir" instead of "Johannsen."

19 posted on 04/12/2015 11:44:58 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The greatest danger facing our world: the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons.-Netanyahu)
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To: PGR88

Notice their ages? They need to grow up


20 posted on 04/12/2015 12:00:21 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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