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Gays in America and Overcoming the “Ick” Factor
Townhall.com ^ | April 11, 2015 | Liz Harrison

Posted on 04/11/2015 6:56:52 AM PDT by Kaslin

Normally, I would not even think about the concept of digging into my past studies in sociology when writing anything for the political arena, but when it comes to social issues, focusing purely on politics can definitely do everyone a disservice. When it comes to the latest round of gay rights activists trying to push their agenda on the masses, I decided it was time to drag out the sociology at least a little. Erick Erickson observations here on the gay rights movement pushing their agenda too hard when it comes to religion were spot on. However, examining just the legal and religious principles in play isn't quite enough.

Beyond the gay rights movement going too far by suggesting that it is time to start dictating religious doctrine, there is another issue that they have inadvertently put precariously close to the table in this debate. The primary reason why the gay rights movement has enjoyed the success that it has up until now is that it has been very careful to place the private side of the issue behind a wall. Messaging has been almost exclusively about treating all people equally, and the activists have generally been very careful to keep the sex lives of gays and bisexuals out of the dialogue. It was a brilliant choice, because it's fair to assume that many Americans would have negative visceral responses to seeing and hearing about those activities on a regular basis.

It has been a bizarre balancing act that involves a group of people defining themselves by their sexual proclivities, while simultaneously keeping the actual sex acts out of view. Now that the movement is trying to force changes in religious doctrine to find their lifestyle acceptable, that balancing act is going to be more difficult to maintain. The bottom line is that religions consider gay sex – sodomy, if you prefer – a sin. The wall that the gay rights movement built to hide what they do in bed from the public view will need to come down at least a little to win this battle.

From a sociological standpoint, that will be opening another can of worms for gay activists. We can easily see why just by looking at popular culture. While there are many gay characters in television and film now, the depiction of gay sex outside of the adult film industry remains a rarity, and for good reason. Even people that are supportive of gay rights would not necessarily want to see what the people they support do in bed. Call it the “ick” factor if you like, but it is a simple fact of life that gay activists have avoided facing so far. We simply haven't reached a point in our culture where homosexual behavior can be completely “normalized,” and it's not just religious doctrine standing in the way.

The entertainment industry just recently showed us this, in the form of the HBO series “Looking,” which followed the social lives of a group of gay men in San Francisco. Due to falling ratings, HBO canceled it. While critics may have battled back and forth about the quality of the show in general, the most likely reason why the show did not take off had nothing to do with production values. The general public simply wasn't interested in delving into the personal lives of gay men. The irony is that the gay rights movement itself might have had a hand in that, because it has been so careful to keep the “nuts and bolts” of the gay lifestyle out of the spotlight.

Now, it will probably get sunlight that they do not want, because instead of just having to battle the “evil Christian bigots,” they may also see losses in support elsewhere. It was fine and even fashionable to support gay rights when one didn't have to think about anyone actually engaging in gay sex. No one should be surprised if we end up seeing some people admit to at least a little revulsion toward gays, assuming that the dialogue truly does turn to the actual sins involved. Arguably, the ball is in the court of religious leaders now. The question is, are they willing to speak explicitly about sin for the sake of protecting religious liberty?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: fdrq; homosexualagenda; ick; ickfactor; yuck
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To: Mercat
Even seeing a boy or a man’s stuff was yucky

Wow,you must have traveled with a pretty fast crowd.The only "stuff" *I* was seeing a 11 was my own....in the bathtub and on the potty. ;-)

61 posted on 04/11/2015 9:50:41 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama;A Low Grade Intellect With Even Lower Morals)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I was a free range kid with two big brothers in a small house. One bathroom.


62 posted on 04/11/2015 9:51:53 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

Starting in elementary school, it’s about “who do you love?” Who is to deny someone the right to love whom they choose? How dare they? By the time they’re old enough to begin to understand, it’s too late.


63 posted on 04/11/2015 9:55:25 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Kaslin

Regular sex is sloppy, but not THAT sloppy. Ick is going to be a persistent factor.


64 posted on 04/11/2015 9:57:53 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Kaslin

The “ick” factor is substantially the same as the reason one doesn’t shake the left hand of people in the third world.


65 posted on 04/11/2015 10:25:13 AM PDT by fso301
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To: napscoordinator

The gay men are repulsive in that show. Call it instinct.


66 posted on 04/11/2015 10:28:20 AM PDT by stillfree? (Tagline? We don't need no stinking taglines!)
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To: Slyfox
"They should be able to love just like anyone else."

Yes they should be able to love someone of the opposite sex just like everyone else.

67 posted on 04/11/2015 10:30:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: doug from upland

I suspect that the x-rays of cellphones were taken in prisons.


68 posted on 04/11/2015 10:33:08 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Mastador1
In my humble uneducated opinion, the reason there is an ICK factor is because same sex relationships are not normal and we are genetically hard wired to recognize the fact! It is only the genetic anomalies that find this normal and are not affected by the ICK factor.

I tend to disagree for reason of this type behavior characterizing pagan cultures all the way back to pre-history. The hetero-monogamy of Judeo-Christianity is what is anomalous.

69 posted on 04/11/2015 10:36:34 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Iron Munro

Ask any RN or Doc who works ER in a major city and they will share the odd experiences of what they have seen/removed from weirdos!
The “shot glass” was an odd one. Who would do that? Oh never mind, that’s not even up there’s on the WTF scale......


70 posted on 04/11/2015 10:46:03 AM PDT by 9422WMR ("Ignorance can be cured by education, but stupidity is forever.")
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To: fso301
The hetero-monogamy of Judeo-Christianity is what is anomalous.

When queers reproduce with each other same sex I'll think about your argument, until then I'll stick with ICK. It is just not a natural manner, normally creatures that cannot reproduce become extinct.

71 posted on 04/11/2015 11:02:31 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: napscoordinator

I’ve never seen it. What’s it about?


72 posted on 04/11/2015 11:16:18 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless2

Three or four couples that live in a suburb. One is a normal 4 person household, one is a 4 person household but the husband is 30 years older then the wife....and a 3 person household that has a gay married couple with an adopted daughter. Not a fun show.


73 posted on 04/11/2015 11:20:21 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: cripplecreek

That isn’t the worst of it.


74 posted on 04/11/2015 11:32:02 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: MeshugeMikey

The euphemism used by gays for AIDS was the “Icky Virus.” So it’s all the same.


75 posted on 04/11/2015 11:32:07 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

ahaha the Icky VIrus.....

astonishing


76 posted on 04/11/2015 11:42:36 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Kaslin

In the high school Sunday School class that I teach, I described to them the statistics and the perverted and promiscuous activities that gays engage in. It really woke then up to the “ick” of the gay lifestyle and the way that the media is lying to them.


77 posted on 04/11/2015 11:43:25 AM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: Mastador1
When queers reproduce with each other same sex I'll think about your argument, until then I'll stick with ICK. It is just not a natural manner, normally creatures that cannot reproduce become extinct.

You don't understand. pagans had/have sex with just about any and everything. Occasionally, reproduction does occur.

78 posted on 04/11/2015 11:48:36 AM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

or the Castro district of SF


79 posted on 04/11/2015 12:19:07 PM PDT by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: fso301

Actually I understand completely, I just don’t want to play warped world with you anymore.


80 posted on 04/11/2015 12:26:12 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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