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This evangelist asked a gay bakery to make a traditional marriage cake. Now he may face charges.
LifeSiteNews ^ | 4/9/15 | Kirsten Andersen

Posted on 04/10/2015 12:33:57 PM PDT by wagglebee

April 9, 2015 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Joshua Feuerstein was just trying to make a point. Now, he may face legal action, as a bakery that refused to provide him with a cake opposing same-sex “marriage” threatens to sue him for taking their conversation public. The bakery owner is also threatening to press charges related to the recording of the phone call.

In the wake of heated national debate over whether business owners should have the right to refuse to participate in same-sex “weddings” that violate their religious beliefs, Feuerstein, an internet evangelist, decided to see if pro-gay business owners would give him the same deference as a Christian that homosexual activists are demanding Christian business owners give to same-sex couples, even if they disagreed with his worldview.

He made a tape of himself calling Florida-based bakery “Cut the Cake” and asking them to make a cake decorated with the words, “We do not support gay marriage.” As Feuerstein expected, the bakery – which calls itself LGBT-friendly and advertises same-sex “wedding” services in gay publications – refused and hung up the phone.

"We wanted to see if a pro-LGBT bakery would bake a cake for something that it was opposed to what they believed in,” Feuerstein told Florida’s WESH 2 News, “and you know what, I actually believe that Cut the Cake has every right as an American to refuse to print that on a cake.”

Feuerstein posted video of the phone call to YouTube with commentary explaining his position. “Cut the Cake[‘s owner]…refuses to make an anti-gay ‘marriage’ cake, so it obviously violates her principles, and so she doesn’t feel like she should be forced to make the cake,” Feuerstein said in the video. “And yet…there’s all of this hoopla going around because Christian bakeries think that they shouldn’t be forced.”

“Look, this is not about discrimination,” Feuerstein said. “This is about them having the freedom.”

But Cut the Cake’s owner, Sharon Haller, didn’t appreciate being made an example of by Feuerstein. She claims that as soon as Feuerstein’s video was posted, she began receiving dozens of phone calls from his fans and followers placing “fake orders” and telling her and the rest of her bakery staff to “kill ourselves.”

"I'm just afraid because of the type of calls that we were getting that someone is going to attack me in my home," Haller told News 13.

Feuerstein took down his video as soon as he became aware that Haller was receiving harassing phone calls. "I never asked people to call, be hateful or boycott them," Feuerstein told WKMG 6.

But Haller quickly reposted the video to YouTube, along with a description classifying Feuerstein’s phone call as an “attack.” She asked people to “put a stop to people like Joshua Feuerstein” by donating to her GoFundMe page, which has raised more than $14,000.

Haller is also threatening to press charges, saying Feuerstein’s recording of the phone call without her consent violates Florida law. She has reached out to the FBI and is considering pursuing a criminal case.

The fiasco echoes similar cases making news around the nation, as cake shops have become the front line battleground in the culture war over the definition of marriage.

In December, blogger Theodore Shoebat recorded himself calling 13 “pro-gay” bakeries to ask if they would make a cake with the words “Gay marriage is wrong.” Shoebat says all 13 bakeries refused to cooperate. Some simply hung up the phone as soon as he made his request. Others called him names and used obscenities when confronted by Shoebat over the perceived double-standard. Shoebat contrasted his own experience with that of a baker in Ireland who suffered “tremendous loss to his business” after resisting attempts by gay activists and the Irish state to force him to create a cake featuring the words “Support Gay Marriage.”

“Christian bakeries that refuse to make pro-homosexual marriage cakes are getting sued left, right, and center,” Shoebat wrote in a blog post explaining the motivation behind his videos, which he called a “social experiment.” “They get fined, they get death threats, and they lose their businesses. This experiment proves beyond doubt that the gay agenda is not just about their freedom to practice a sexual orientation, but the suppression of free speech,” he said.

Last year, Bill Jack filed a discrimination complaint against Denver’s Azucar Bakery, claiming the owner violated his religious rights by refusing to decorate Bible-shaped cakes with the words “God hates sin. Psalm 45:7" and "Homosexuality is a detestable sin. Leviticus 18:22.” He also wanted one cake to feature an image of two men holding hands in front of a cross with a red “X” overlaid on the image.

The Colorado Civil Rights Commission rejected Jack’s claim early this week, ruling that the bakery owner rejected his message because it violated an established policy of refusing to decorate cakes with "derogatory language and imagery,” not because of his faith.

The heightened controversy over wedding cakes comes as several states are debating Religious Freedom Restoration Acts (RFRAs) to protect religious business owners’ right to refuse to provide goods and services that violate their deeply held beliefs. Homosexual activists have decried such laws, claiming they will be used as an excuse for people to discriminate against gays.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Indiana; US: Texas
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To: All

They only thing that is going to push back the left is violence.

They respect muslims because muslims are violent.

Unlike mooslimes our violence should be selective and targeted.


41 posted on 04/10/2015 1:54:41 PM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: MrB
Once they got the upper hand it’s “Die! Christer, Die!”

They crucified Jesus. "Give us Barabbas!!!! Jesus? Crucify Him!!!!"

As a Christian, I expect them to treat me more or less the same way.

42 posted on 04/10/2015 1:56:37 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Yes, but when was the last time someone in Florida was PROSECUTED for a similar offense.
43 posted on 04/10/2015 1:58:00 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Don’t expect fairness. It’s about eliminating Christianity and giving one select group more political power.


44 posted on 04/10/2015 2:19:07 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: NorthMountain

Who are you referring to? The story involves a male evangelist and a female baker.


45 posted on 04/10/2015 2:23:02 PM PDT by Coronal
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To: wagglebee
We need to start fighting back against the Homo-Nazis.


46 posted on 04/10/2015 2:35:37 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: xzins
Is there actually a law against recording and playing a phone conversation with a business?

In Florida, yes. Florida is an "All-party consent state" so all parties on a call need to be informed if the call is to be recorded. The same is true for CA, CT, IL, MA, MT, NH, PA and WA. And oh by the way, if the call includes a party in CA, all parties to the call must be notified that the call may be recorded - at least so says CA. See (18 U.S.C. §2511(2)(d)) for further details

47 posted on 04/10/2015 2:38:09 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Flu season: Wash your hands.)
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To: wagglebee

You ask me, I must do!
I ask you, you will sue!

Sure sounds fair and equal to me


48 posted on 04/10/2015 2:41:21 PM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: wagglebee

[[Now, he may face legal action, as a bakery that refused to provide him with a cake opposing same-sex “marriage” threatens to sue him for taking their conversation public.]]

Let’s see- they had their conversation IN PUBLIC, but they are going to sue him for ‘taking it public’? Are these people insane or just really stupid?


49 posted on 04/10/2015 2:59:47 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: wagglebee

they will get away with their lawsuit BUt IF the Christian bakery brought the exact same lawsuit- it wouldn’t even make it to court-


50 posted on 04/10/2015 3:01:20 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2015/04/02/muslim-bakeries-refuse-to-bake-cakes-for-gay-weddings-video-media-silent/

Muslim bakeries declining to make a cake for a gay wedding.


51 posted on 04/10/2015 3:03:07 PM PDT by Daffynition ("We Are Not Descended From Fearful Men")
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To: SeaHawkFan

‘’In Colorado, recording or intercepting a telephone conversation, or any electronic communication, without the consent of at least one party to the conversation is a felony punishable by a fine of between $1,000 and $100,000 and one year to 18 months in jail.’’

http://wiretapping.uslegal.com/state-laws/colorado/


52 posted on 04/10/2015 3:05:00 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: wagglebee

[[But Cut the Cake’s owner, Sharon Haller, didn’t appreciate being made an example of by Feuerstein.]]

Hurts when the shoe is on the other foot eh Sharon? Too freakin bad- your ilk has made examples of many small businesses and bullied them and even threatened them- so yeah- Cry us a friggin river Sharon


53 posted on 04/10/2015 3:07:30 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: xzins

Florida law makes an exception for in-person communications when the parties do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the conversation, such as when they are engaged in conversation in a public place where they might reasonably be overheard. If you are operating in Florida, you may record these kinds of in-person conversations without breaking the law. Pretty clear a business is a public place.


54 posted on 04/10/2015 3:22:42 PM PDT by pacific_waters
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To: rednesss

Journalism? lol


55 posted on 04/10/2015 3:51:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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To: wagglebee

“She has reached out to the FBI...”

The FBI has established itself as a state-sponsored terrorist organization that attacks women, children and babies. Waco was its first confirmation that this organization is infested with cowards who like killing women and children.


56 posted on 04/10/2015 4:19:44 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

Ruby Ridge was a pretty good intro to that.


57 posted on 04/10/2015 5:04:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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To: SeaHawkFan
"Colorado is a one-party consent state, so the bakery has no legal claim; and a competent attorney would tell the owner he has no case.

"He made a tape of himself calling Florida-based bakery “Cut the Cake” "

58 posted on 04/10/2015 5:09:37 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TigersEye

“Ruby Ridge was a pretty good intro to that.”

10-4

The inevitable second civil war against the federal mercenary traitors was delayed at Ruby Ridge.


59 posted on 04/10/2015 5:22:32 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: chajin

Ah yes, from Mars Attacks. I remember my history well!


60 posted on 04/10/2015 5:41:30 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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