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California governor order first ever water restrictions (25% reduction across the state)
BBC News ^ | 4/1/15 | BBC

Posted on 04/01/2015 11:41:25 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

The governor of California has created the state's mandatory water reduction orders, following a historic drought.

The order mandates a 25% reduction in water sage for cities and town across the state.

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(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; drought; restrictions; water
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To: redgolum
There is real talk about evacuating parts of California, and seizing further water rights from the West and High Plains states.

Where is this real talk?

61 posted on 04/01/2015 1:49:16 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: NormsRevenge
California governor order first ever water restrictions

It's far from being the "first" water restrictions. For example:

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-new-california-water-use-restrictions-20140729-story.html

62 posted on 04/01/2015 1:49:25 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: NormsRevenge
If it's yellow...let it mellow. If it's brown flush it down!

That last sentence ought to resonate!!

63 posted on 04/01/2015 1:59:43 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: redgolum
"There is real talk about evacuating parts of California, and seizing further water rights from the West and High Plains states."

There's talk of California sucking the water out from under Iowa, since the High Plains states are already dried out. ;-)

U.S. Monthly Drought Outlook
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/expert_assessment/mdo_summary.html


64 posted on 04/01/2015 2:05:14 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The failure is both at the state and in Hussein’s hacks in the national government.

Tom McClintock has been trying to get the Bureau of Reclamation not to release hundreds of thousands of acre feet of water from the Mellones dam to the sea like they have done every year but they refuse. Got to take care of the fishies you know.

http://calaverascap.com/mother-lode-elected-reps-urge-easing-of-dam-operation-rules/


65 posted on 04/01/2015 2:08:07 PM PDT by fifedom
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; redgolum
"Where is this real talk?"

We had a very early runoff up here around the Divide. Looks like it's going to get even drier on the Range. Ranchers are running far fewer summer cattle (usually too cold and ice too deep for them in winter up here). It's looking like that last of them might be shutting down soon.

The High Plains in CO have been dry as a bone for quite a few years. Looks more like desert down there east of the Springs. Ranchers there were seeing gobs of rattlesnakes last summer. All have either drastically cut herds or shut down.


66 posted on 04/01/2015 2:17:45 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; tubebender

Many if not most communities in Nor Cal are not short of water. Our reservoirs are full or becoming full. April may be a wet month and have those reservoirs overflowing.

The drought is in the farmland south of Sacramento down I5 and 99 and of course LaLa land. Maybe we shouldn’t have farms during drought years. As Sierra Wasp has pointed forever, we need to build more dams up here to send water down south. Of course the enviros won’t allow that.

The rice farmers in North Cali are trying to sell their water allotments to farmers and ranchers down south.

Would those rice farmers be raising those flooded rice paddies, if they had to pay for the real costs of water?

LaLaers have never conserved our water shipped south to them in previous droughts, and they will not change.

Libs up here go ballistic about the low snow levels in the Sierra, and I ask them how much water we get from the Sierra. Most are surprised when they find out none.


67 posted on 04/01/2015 2:25:27 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will Sisi, Bibi, King Abdullah & ?, take out Isis in our White House, AG Dept, CIA, & State?)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Progressives” like nothing better than artificial restrictions that reduce the quality of life in lieu of investing in infrastructure to solve the problem. A half a dozen more Carsbad desalinization plants at a measly one billion dollars each would solve the problem permanently.

This is a drop in the bucket cost-wise compared to the $68 billion not-high-speed passenger rail which is slower and will cost more to ride than flying, and which practically no one will ride, assuming it’s ever completed.

But providing people with enough potable water for modern living isn’t “green” compared to building insanely expensive early 19th century passenger rail lines that almost no one will ever use.


68 posted on 04/01/2015 2:27:12 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: MinuteGal
Amen Sister!

.let Governor Moonbeam ration a sizeable amount of the billions of gallons of precious water used daily to maintain the lushly-green, exclusive golf courses of the California moneyed elite.

Also, ration the water going to their lawns and swimming pools.

69 posted on 04/01/2015 2:28:24 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will Sisi, Bibi, King Abdullah & ?, take out Isis in our White House, AG Dept, CIA, & State?)
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To: GeronL

“Oregon offered to sell them billions and billions of gallons!”

This year Oregone could sell us trillions and trillions of gallons of water.


70 posted on 04/01/2015 2:30:25 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will Sisi, Bibi, King Abdullah & ?, take out Isis in our White House, AG Dept, CIA, & State?)
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To: NormsRevenge

And what now do we say about the Delta Smelt?


71 posted on 04/01/2015 3:46:40 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Digger

It’s been suggested before. Oregonians usually respond by saying “We don’t care if your pools go dry.”


72 posted on 04/01/2015 5:22:22 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: NormsRevenge

...and how many thousands more will come over the border this month to live in California illegally?


73 posted on 04/01/2015 6:38:09 PM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: DannyTN

Desperate times call for desperate measures...


74 posted on 04/01/2015 6:38:57 PM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: Grampa Dave

How many of the folks in LA are really citizens anyway? Reading Victor Davis Hanson I wonder sometimes if the population of natives has fallen below thirty or forty percent?


75 posted on 04/01/2015 6:49:35 PM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Beer Batter&DeepFRied by the railcar is my final solution.


76 posted on 04/01/2015 7:59:19 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Grampa Dave; NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; tubebender; marsh2

Hi all from Siskiyou County - I have moved to Weed recently, and thought I would check in on what I am seeing up here.

We are laying out a logging job on the west side of Shasta Lake over the last month or so - the lake is filling up pretty good considering that our rainfall is roughly normal for this time of year for the Mt. Shasta area - no snow though

They are limiting the releases out of Shasta Lake this year - which was better then last year when they ramped up the flows for the spring run of Chinook - I think the agencies finally understand that the fish cannot be the main priority like in the the last few years - this is getting serious for the folks down south

I see Westlands water district lost in the courts on their challenge of the delta smelt decision - from what I hear, this will result in the loss of thousands of acres of orchards down south - which is a pretty big hit when they take so long to mature...

I see that the Governor is finally able to monitor the agriculture people with this executive action - ie meters on their wells and diversions - of course this would never be used against the farmers and ranchers - I think one of you told a story once of Willie Brown flying over the ag lands and stating “Just think of all the tax revenue that could be raised if we taxed water in this State.” - I expect that this will happen - I could be wrong though - but they get the meters and reporting in now, so it will be easier in the future as the agg folks will allready have been monitored for several years before the fees (taxes) kick in....

Oh, heard something remarkable the other day from one of our loggers - he does biomass removal of juniper in the winter on local ranches to keep his crew busy - juniper makes really good biomass fuel for power plants due to the high resin and low moisture content - anyway, he said that he has seen formally dry streams start to run the next day after they cut the juniper - I know that the science clearly shows that overgrown land dries up over time - because the vegetation sucks all of the water out of the ground and the creeks and springs dry up - but it was a surprise to me that the creeks started to flow the next day...

The other thing that the logger mentioned is that the ranchers want him ti leave the largest and healthiest juniper scattered out across the ranch - I asked him if that was to keep the enviros happy and he said no - it was to provide shade for the cattle - and the ranchers - plus the ranchers like the looks of having scattered trees out there - now keep in mind, these ranchers have family pictures from the late 1800’s that show not a single juniper on the ranch - and they know from the science that the juniper is drying up their springs and creeks -but they are pragmatic and the shade concept is one I never considered before...

My point is that we could increase water yield if we just reduced the vegetation densities to something approximating what was here before the hippies put a stop to things — then maybe we might not be in such bad shape water wise

And my other point is that the feds are getting real good at reducing vegetation at 100,000 acres at a time ie the five big fires we had up here last summer..

Even meth addled speed freaks know that you can torch 100,000 acres at time if you get mad at somebody - all ya gotta do is flick yer bic when the wind is blowin and poof...

As I recall Walt, the 106,000 acre Pollack Pines fire that damn near burned to Tahoe was started by just such a person

We lost 152 houses, two churches, part of the local peeler mill, power plant and part of the elementary school here in Weed last year because some meth head was mad at his girlfiend - ironically, the fire missed her apartment complex and burned through the center of town - who would have seen that coming? I know Mark has never brought this up before (kidding buddy)

Anyway, just thought I would check in with some old friends..


77 posted on 04/01/2015 8:00:24 PM PDT by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: forester; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; Grampa Dave

The pot growers in the Emerald Triangle are diverting most of the streams that feed the Eel, Klamath, Trinity, Mad and Van Duzen rivers. We have had over 85% of our normal rainfall this season and Ruth Lake on the Mad is full so the towns of Humboldt Bay are in great shape but we will be caught up in the Mandatory 25% cutback anyway~~~


78 posted on 04/01/2015 8:19:51 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: NormsRevenge
There's an entire ocean in their front yard, yet they refuse to build desalination plants.
I guess they don't want the ocean to run out of water.
79 posted on 04/01/2015 8:21:59 PM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS, Make them talk!)
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To: tubebender

We used to have the mexican cartels here - but it is not as bad as it used to be - heard that the russians had moved into California last spring when I was working east of Sacramento - what have you been hearing over in Humboldt?


80 posted on 04/01/2015 8:24:11 PM PDT by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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