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To: fatnotlazy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

The idea of an elected Supreme Court with gerrymandered districts to ensure a Republican majority is intriguing. But could we get to 6-3?


27 posted on 03/29/2015 8:53:08 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy; fatnotlazy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief
I'm for term limits for SCOTUS, provided that We The People are the ones who decide whether to retain the Justices. As Fieldmarshaldj noted, it would have been disastrous if the last few SCOTUS judges terms expired and the President/Congress got to decide whether to retain them.

We'll probably never have a fully elected SCOTUS where they run for the seat in and have to win primary elections (though that would be my ideal system). A middle ground compromise would keep the current system of the President naming vacancies and the Senate confirming them, but then leaving it up to voters if they want to retain those judges for another term. Ideally, it would curtail senile federal, lazy, and corrupt federal judges from serving for life, and if a judge "evolved" on the court, they could be dumped for their treason.

Illinois has a fully elected judiciary and it works well, although the Crook County court system is effectively a one-party system of getting the job due to buttering up RAT party officials, and those judges are never denied retention (and we vote on dozens of them every election cycle!) Statewide, the judicial branch is probably the best of the three branches (I will continue to say that after "Republican" Rauner took control of the executive branch). Illinois Supreme Court judges are elected by district in partisan elections (I believe Illinois is one of only seven states to do this) and serve for a term for 10 years.

29 posted on 03/29/2015 9:31:01 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Impy; fatnotlazy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief
>> The idea of an elected Supreme Court with gerrymandered districts to ensure a Republican majority is intriguing. But could we get to 6-3? <<

Although appointed, the SCOTUS judges have always represented federal districts (back in the pre-civil war days, they were required to "ride the circuit" and spent much of their tenure visiting local courts in their district. I'd like to return to that system in some form and get these guys to stop being in the beltway year-round).

If we were to switch to an elected SCOTUS, you'd ever have to eliminate two of the federal districts, or expand the membership of the court to 11 Justices (technically there are 13 federal districts, but the Chief Justice represents the DC circuit and the Federal Circuit at large).

I've been intrigued by the idea for a while. One thought that crossed by mind about a decade ago if that my region of the country was "represented" by John Paul Stevens of Chicago, and he could have hypothetically been fired if his district (namely Illinois, Wisconsin, and Indiana) got to vote on whether to retain him in a statewide election.

In any case though, the current map would have to be redrawn to some degree. One of the best things that would come out of a partisan redistricting is that the 9th circuit as we know it would cease to exist. Right now, its obscenely large in both area and population, and would have a hugely disproportionate electorate (compared to the rest of the country) that would make popular elections in the "district" a huge burden:

Hypothetically, it shouldn't be hard to gerrymander whole states to create a 6-3 or even 7-2 Republican majority on SCOTUS. We'd just pack all the RATs into west coast and northeastern coastal districts. Federal circuits 1 and 2 could be combined into some safe RAT district stretching from Maine to New York.

30 posted on 03/29/2015 9:45:38 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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