Posted on 03/27/2015 4:38:55 PM PDT by Kaslin
Traitors. Thats a strong term, obviously. It should never be used lightly. Yet there it was, flying around like confetti in Times Square on New Years Eve.
And why? Because 47 GOP senators who are understandably concerned about the prospects of a nuclear-armed Iran sent a letter to that countrys leaders about the deal now being struck with the United States and other countries. Their message: The next U.S. president can overturn with the stroke of a pen any deal Congress doesnt approve.
Judas got thirty pieces of silver. What did you get? one New Jersey resident tweeted. Others, sparked by a White House who accused the 47 senators of wanting to make common cause with the hardliners in Iran, were equally vitriolic. The New York Daily News called it an unprecedented missive.
Vice President Joe Biden echoed this theme: In 36 years in the United States Senate, I cannot recall another instance in which senators wrote directly to advise another country -- much less a longtime foreign adversary -- that the president does not have the constitutional authority to reach a meaningful understanding with them.
In short, like so many things online do these days, it got ugly -- and fast.
It never fails to amaze me how short some peoples memories are. The fact is, theres nothing unprecedented about lawmakers interjecting themselves into matters of foreign policy. Washington Postcolumnist Marc Theissen, for example, wrote about how Sen. Jesse Helms reacted in June 2000 when President Bill Clinton went to Moscow to negotiate an arms-control treaty with Vladimir Putin.
After dragging his feet on missile defense for nearly eight years, Mr. Clinton now fervently hopes that he will be permitted, in his final months in office, to tie the hands of the next president, Helms wrote in an op-ed for Izvestia, a major Russian daily. Well I, for one, have a message for the president: Not on my watch. Any modified ABM treaty negotiated by this administration will be dead-on-arrival at the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. . . . The Russian government should not be under any illusion whatsoever that any commitments made by this lame-duck administration will be binding on the next administration.
Such congressional meddling is very much a bipartisan activity, I should add (as anyone who remembers then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosis 2007 meeting with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad should know). And its been going on for decades, as foreign policy expert James Carafano recently noted: The Mexican-American War, the League of Nations debate, the U.S. entry into NATO, the bitter debate over the SALT II talks, the Panama Canal treaty negotiations and U.S. support for the Contras in Nicaragua are just a few examples of such contests.
That last example -- Nicaragua -- is particularly telling. How many of those who so gleefully denounced the 47 GOP senators would also have pilloried the Democratic lawmakers who in the 1980s sought to undermine President Reagans efforts to aid the Contras in their effort to stop a Soviet-backed takeover of their country?
Sens. Tom Harkin of Iowa and John Kerry of Massachusetts -- who, in an ironic twist, is now on the other side of the fence, working as Secretary of State to strike a deal with Iran -- actually traveled to Nicaragua to meet publicly with Daniel Ortega, the communist leader. Were they traitors? Were they trying to make common cause with the communists?
Oh, no, they would say. They were trying to influence foreign policy in the way they thought best, and working to make sure the U.S. didnt make any missteps in an important region of the world. And sure enough,The New York Times and many other media outlets made every effort to justify their actions.
But if some GOP senators simply write a letter that is, by historical standards, rather mild? Well. Find the nearest yardarm and string those traitors up, posthaste!
The hypocrisy is breath-taking.
If liberals weren’t hypocrites, they’d have nothing to say.
neither...... the correct descriptive is terminal ideologues
All people that criticize our few remaining patriots in government , and whom still support Obama in his stupid , ill advised , or intentionally devious foreign policy , should be arrested and put in camps. Let them form thehardkabor pool that is tasked to rebuild American highway infrastructure and proper border barriers. For the next 25 years. And don’t let them breed.
< Vice President Joe Biden echoed this theme: In 36 years in the United States Senate, I cannot recall another instance in which senators wrote directly to advise another country — much less a longtime foreign adversary — that the president does not have the constitutional authority to reach a meaningful understanding with them.
And yet your boss tries to unduly influence and election in another country for “other interests”...you guys aren’t very bright up there at the WH I take it...
And NONE of what Obama has done could be considered TREASON? They are in such deep denial as to make rational argument impossible.
When the hard right takes control of the DOJ, CIA, and FBI in 2017, the purge that results will put the CPUSA and fellow travelers in Congress right where they belong.
On trial for subversion.
18 U.S. Code Chapter 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-115
It's bad enough that he overturns what has already been approved under the Constitution.
Down into their unrepentant abortion-promoting demonic-possessed souls.
sorry, 0bama is not the United States. if any one body is the US, it's congress.
and while we're at it, what other countries are on board with this bs 'deal'? i mean, besides every other terrorist nation
the most recent would be the release of 5 enemy commanders during war time... and then FUNDING them with $5 BILLION
yes, that’s treason. aiding the enemy, helping to supply them with munitions they will use against our guys and gals?
i cannot even tell you how p*ssed off i am about that. i haven’t been to the VA since i found out (in jan) and i really don’t think it’d be a good idea if i did. it’d just hammer home the price of treason
Yes. In a just society, both would've been lined up against a wall and shot.
We got the satisfaction of being right - and in the right.
Yes, they were. Kerry did even worse prior to that so he's a two time traitor.
American Patriots Against John KerryThe 1970 meeting that John Kerry conducted with North Vietnamese communists violated U.S. law, according to an author and researcher who has studied the issue.
Kerry met with representatives from both delegations of the Vietnamese (North Vietnamese and Viet Cong) in Paris in 1970, according to Kerrys own testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on April 22, 1971. But Kerrys meetings with the Vietnamese delegations were in direct violation of laws forbidding private citizens from negotiating with foreign powers, according to researcher and author Jerry Corsi, who began studying the anti-war movement in the early 1970s.
According to Corsi, Kerry violated U.S. code 18 U.S.C. 953. A U.S. citizen cannot go abroad and negotiate with a foreign power, Corsi told CNSNews.com.
By Kerrys own admission, he met in 1970 with delegations from the North Vietnamese communist government and discussed how the Vietnam Warshould be stopped.
Democrats have no room to be calling anyone a traitor.Besides, those 47 Senators are correct.If Zero tries to implement this deal with Iran unilaterally, then let the impeachment proceedings begin.
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