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Critics? Or Traitors?
Townhall.com ^ | March 27, 2015 | Ed Feulner

Posted on 03/27/2015 4:38:55 PM PDT by Kaslin

“Traitors.” That’s a strong term, obviously. It should never be used lightly. Yet there it was, flying around like confetti in Times Square on New Year’s Eve.

And why? Because 47 GOP senators who are understandably concerned about the prospects of a nuclear-armed Iran sent a letter to that country’s leaders about the deal now being struck with the United States and other countries. Their message: The next U.S. president can overturn “with the stroke of a pen” any deal Congress doesn’t approve.

“Judas got thirty pieces of silver. What did you get?” one New Jersey resident tweeted. Others, sparked by a White House who accused the 47 senators of “wanting to make common cause with the hardliners in Iran,” were equally vitriolic. The New York Daily News called it an “unprecedented missive.”

Vice President Joe Biden echoed this theme: “In 36 years in the United States Senate, I cannot recall another instance in which senators wrote directly to advise another country -- much less a longtime foreign adversary -- that the president does not have the constitutional authority to reach a meaningful understanding with them.”

In short, like so many things online do these days, it got ugly -- and fast.

It never fails to amaze me how short some people’s memories are. The fact is, there’s nothing “unprecedented” about lawmakers interjecting themselves into matters of foreign policy. Washington Postcolumnist Marc Theissen, for example, wrote about how Sen. Jesse Helms reacted in June 2000 when President Bill Clinton went to Moscow to negotiate an arms-control treaty with Vladimir Putin.

“After dragging his feet on missile defense for nearly eight years, Mr. Clinton now fervently hopes that he will be permitted, in his final months in office, to tie the hands of the next president,” Helms wrote in an op-ed for Izvestia, a major Russian daily. “Well I, for one, have a message for the president: Not on my watch. … Any modified ABM treaty negotiated by this administration will be dead-on-arrival at the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. . . . The Russian government should not be under any illusion whatsoever that any commitments made by this lame-duck administration will be binding on the next administration.”

Such congressional “meddling” is very much a bipartisan activity, I should add (as anyone who remembers then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s 2007 meeting with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad should know). And it’s been going on for decades, as foreign policy expert James Carafano recently noted: “The Mexican-American War, the League of Nations debate, the U.S. entry into NATO, the bitter debate over the SALT II talks, the Panama Canal treaty negotiations and U.S. support for the Contras in Nicaragua are just a few examples of such contests.”

That last example -- Nicaragua -- is particularly telling. How many of those who so gleefully denounced the 47 GOP senators would also have pilloried the Democratic lawmakers who in the 1980s sought to undermine President Reagan’s efforts to aid the Contras in their effort to stop a Soviet-backed takeover of their country?

Sens. Tom Harkin of Iowa and John Kerry of Massachusetts -- who, in an ironic twist, is now on the other side of the fence, working as Secretary of State to strike a deal with Iran -- actually traveled to Nicaragua to meet publicly with Daniel Ortega, the communist leader. Were they “traitors”? Were they trying to “make common cause” with the communists?

Oh, no, they would say. They were trying to influence foreign policy in the way they thought best, and working to make sure the U.S. didn’t make any missteps in an important region of the world. And sure enough,The New York Times and many other media outlets made every effort to justify their actions.

But if some GOP senators simply write a letter that is, by historical standards, rather mild? Well. Find the nearest yardarm and string those traitors up, posthaste!

The hypocrisy is breath-taking.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: congress; foreignpolicy; iran; tomcotton

1 posted on 03/27/2015 4:38:55 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

If liberals weren’t hypocrites, they’d have nothing to say.


2 posted on 03/27/2015 4:42:39 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

neither...... the correct descriptive is terminal ideologues


3 posted on 03/27/2015 4:44:33 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Kaslin

All people that criticize our few remaining patriots in government , and whom still support Obama in his stupid , ill advised , or intentionally devious foreign policy , should be arrested and put in camps. Let them form thehardkabor pool that is tasked to rebuild American highway infrastructure and proper border barriers. For the next 25 years. And don’t let them breed.


4 posted on 03/27/2015 4:44:38 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Kaslin

< Vice President Joe Biden echoed this theme: “In 36 years in the United States Senate, I cannot recall another instance in which senators wrote directly to advise another country — much less a longtime foreign adversary — that the president does not have the constitutional authority to reach a meaningful understanding with them.”

And yet your boss tries to unduly influence and election in another country for “other interests”...you guys aren’t very bright up there at the WH I take it...


5 posted on 03/27/2015 4:44:46 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin

And NONE of what Obama has done could be considered TREASON? They are in such deep denial as to make rational argument impossible.


6 posted on 03/27/2015 4:47:50 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin
Traitors?


7 posted on 03/27/2015 4:50:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Kaslin

When the hard right takes control of the DOJ, CIA, and FBI in 2017, the purge that results will put the CPUSA and fellow travelers in Congress right where they belong.

On trial for subversion.

18 U.S. Code Chapter 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-115


8 posted on 03/27/2015 4:58:08 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: Kaslin
The next U.S. president can overturn “with the stroke of a pen” any deal Congress doesn’t approve.

It's bad enough that he overturns what has already been approved under the Constitution.

9 posted on 03/27/2015 5:01:05 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: BenLurkin
Traitors?"

Down into their unrepentant abortion-promoting demonic-possessed souls.


10 posted on 03/27/2015 5:04:38 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Kaslin
And why? Because 47 GOP senators who are understandably concerned about the prospects of a nuclear-armed Iran sent a letter to that country’s leaders about the deal now being struck with the United States and other countries

sorry, 0bama is not the United States. if any one body is the US, it's congress.

and while we're at it, what other countries are on board with this bs 'deal'? i mean, besides every other terrorist nation

11 posted on 03/27/2015 5:11:06 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Don Corleone

the most recent would be the release of 5 enemy commanders during war time... and then FUNDING them with $5 BILLION

yes, that’s treason. aiding the enemy, helping to supply them with munitions they will use against our guys and gals?

i cannot even tell you how p*ssed off i am about that. i haven’t been to the VA since i found out (in jan) and i really don’t think it’d be a good idea if i did. it’d just hammer home the price of treason


12 posted on 03/27/2015 5:14:53 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Talisker
Were they “traitors”? Were they trying to “make common cause” with the communists?

Yes. In a just society, both would've been lined up against a wall and shot.

13 posted on 03/27/2015 5:22:50 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: Kaslin
“Judas got thirty pieces of silver. What did you get?”

We got the satisfaction of being right - and in the right.

14 posted on 03/27/2015 5:42:57 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Kaslin
Sens. Tom Harkin of Iowa and John Kerry of Massachusetts -- who, in an ironic twist, is now on the other side of the fence, working as Secretary of State to strike a deal with Iran -- actually traveled to Nicaragua to meet publicly with Daniel Ortega, the communist leader. Were they “traitors”? Were they trying to “make common cause” with the communists?

Yes, they were. Kerry did even worse prior to that so he's a two time traitor.

American Patriots Against John Kerry

The 1970 meeting that John Kerry conducted with North Vietnamese communists violated U.S. law, according to an author and researcher who has studied the issue.

Kerry met with representatives from “both delegations” of the Vietnamese (North Vietnamese and Viet Cong) in Paris in 1970, according to Kerry’s own testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on April 22, 1971. But Kerry’s meetings with the Vietnamese delegations were in direct violation of laws forbidding private citizens from negotiating with foreign powers, according to researcher and author Jerry Corsi, who began studying the anti-war movement in the early 1970s.

According to Corsi, Kerry violated U.S. code 18 U.S.C. 953. “A U.S. citizen cannot go abroad and negotiate with a foreign power,” Corsi told CNSNews.com.

By Kerry’s own admission, he met in 1970 with delegations from the North Vietnamese communist government and discussed how the Vietnam Warshould be stopped.


15 posted on 03/27/2015 6:22:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (r)
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To: TigersEye

Democrats have no room to be calling anyone a traitor.Besides, those 47 Senators are correct.If Zero tries to implement this deal with Iran unilaterally, then let the impeachment proceedings begin.


16 posted on 03/27/2015 7:09:00 PM PDT by Baltimore ken (Baltimore Ken)
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