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To: FredZarguna; wagglebee

Richard III was the legitimate monarch, as far as the legitimacy of monarchy can go. Why do the supporters of the usurper and murderer Henry VII claim otherwise?

His brother’s children were illegitimate, and that was known at the time. Why do the supporters of the usurper and murderer Henry VII claim otherwise?

Gosh, there were cranks back then who claimed he’d done this and that — and the Wars of the Roses meant there were lots of factions, and lots of rumors. Why do the supporters of the usurper and murderer Henry VII claim otherwise?

Henry VII had no legitimate claim to the throne, and had to marry the sister. Why do the supporters of the usurper and murderer Henry VII claim otherwise?

Re-legitimizing her meant re-legitimizing her brothers, so they had to be done away with. Why do the supporters of the usurper and murderer Henry VII claim otherwise?

If the princes were a threat, obviously the princess was as well — yet Richard III didn’t get rid of her. He also didn’t get rid of the princes. Why do the supporters of the usurper and murderer Henry VII claim otherwise?

What surprises me is how vivid hatred toward a murdered monarch (he was murdered on the field by hired traitors, paid by Henry VII. Why do the supporters of the usurper and murderer Henry VII claim otherwise?) has persisted across the centuries. For that matter, it’s surprising how the vociferous defense of his successor, the usurper Henry VII, considering A) the passage of time and B) the fact that monarchy is, at the very least, a bit passe’.


54 posted on 03/30/2015 9:42:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Henry VII had no legitimate claim to the throne, and had to marry the sister.

People tend to forget that Tudor's ONLY real claim to the throne came through the Beaufort line of John of Gaunt and that its legitimacy has always been questioned.

If the princes were a threat, obviously the princess was as well — yet Richard III didn’t get rid of her.

Precisely! Richard would have had no reason to kill the Princes and allow their sisters to live. Henry Tudor's pledge to marry Elizabeth of York would have been a death sentence for her if Richard was the type of person who would murder his brother's children purely for convenience. However, Henry Tudor had every reason to murder the Princes and allow the Princesses to live.

55 posted on 03/30/2015 10:32:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: SunkenCiv
His brother’s children were illegitimate, and that was known at the time.

Then why did he take a vow to protect them until Edward became King? Answer: your claims are nonsense. He was a traitor, a murderer, and a betrayer of his own brother, who got what he deserved at Bosworth Field.

56 posted on 03/30/2015 11:07:27 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47 -- with leather.)
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