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Battle flag at center of Supreme Court free speech case
AP ^ | March 22, 2015

Posted on 03/22/2015 12:28:41 PM PDT by PROCON

Texas commemorates the Confederacy in many ways, from an annual celebration of Confederate Heroes Day each January to monuments on the grounds of the state Capitol in Austin. Among the memorials is one that has stood for more than a century, bearing an image of the Confederate battle flag etched in marble.

But you're out of luck if you want to put that flag on your license plate. Texas says that would be offensive.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; confederateflag; dixie; lawsuit; scotus; texas
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To: Reno89519

I do not recognize your right to go through life
being un-offended by what others may say and do.

Take up your cause to repeal the 1st amendment,
and take it somewhere else.

Lincoln’s war to “save the union”, effectively destroyed it.


41 posted on 03/22/2015 3:14:30 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy, and he is us.)
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To: PROCON

I spent the third grade in Cocoa. My Dad was working on the Cape. :-)


42 posted on 03/22/2015 3:23:00 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Reno89519

“There is no honor in dissing America to fly a flag of hate, regardless of the excuses, a flag flown by over dead Americans.”

You’re right.

Except I disagree that the Confederate flag represents “hate.” It represents a political disagreement that was resolved by a terrible war of rebellion. It’s no more “hateful” than the original flag of the colonies that George Washington carried into battle against England.

Revolutions can be great if you win — 13 colonies became the United States of America. And the Founding Fathers are great men — traitors who WON.

But revolutions are hell on the traitors if you lose. And the Confederate traitors lost. The moment they surrendered, they also lost the right to fly that flag on official government documents, like license plates. FOREVER. Don’t pop up 150 years later and say it’s okay to fly the flag of traitors because History.

Fly the Confederate in your yard if you want. But you’re still flying the flag of traitors. Who not only lost, but killed millions of their own countrymen to boot. It’s shameful... but I wouldn’t call it hateful. Just ignorant.


43 posted on 03/22/2015 3:31:57 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Reno89519

Did you go to government school?


44 posted on 03/22/2015 3:43:05 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery ea)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I’ve always believed that the hatred of freedom and the desire to impose their own form of slavery has been what liberals-get off on-they are really no different from any other extremist of any stripe, and I don’t have any use for any of them-my ancestors left Spain to get away from a lack of freedom-I’m sure they didn’t mind the snakes, heat, hostile natives, etc as long as they were able to ranch in the wilderness away from the king’s representatives...


45 posted on 03/22/2015 3:47:17 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Irony is lost on you, ain’t it?


46 posted on 03/22/2015 3:59:50 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: Blue Ink
Who not only lost, but killed millions of their own countrymen to boot

"Millions"? Really? Perhaps a bit of hyperbole?

Civil War Casualties The Cost of War: Killed, Wounded, Captured, and Missing


47 posted on 03/22/2015 4:21:52 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: Reno89519

Come back here and defend yourself.

At this point, your post looks like something posted by a coward.


48 posted on 03/22/2015 4:36:36 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: Reno89519
My family died for that flag. You just grouped them with Nazis.

You are absolutely off the Christmas card list this year.

49 posted on 03/22/2015 4:48:04 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: lentulusgracchus

The Antietam Battlefield also forbade any statues of Robert E Lee.

Some rich guy got pissed, bought property adjacent and had his own made, at great expense.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/whatever-happened-to—the-statue-of-gen-lee-at-antietam/2011/06/03/AGFO62tH_story.html

That thing is just freaking glorious.


50 posted on 03/22/2015 4:59:02 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

“and vote for the nice Democrats.”

As rare as unicorns.


51 posted on 03/22/2015 5:00:13 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: Reno89519

Your odious attitude Illusrtates why there is still antipathy toward the US government for committing war crimes in the South, such as Sherman’s slaughter of civilians in his infamous “March to the Sea.” Those memories do not fade because they are part of family histories across the South.


52 posted on 03/22/2015 5:00:34 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Two GG Grandfathers both fought with CSA out of North Carolina. I am proud of my heritage and I’ll be damned if I’ll have a bunch of mamby bamby liberal progressives attempt to erase their honorable service and or rewrite history.

Sons of Confederate Veterans Texas
http://scvtexas.org/


53 posted on 03/22/2015 5:29:53 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: BwanaNdege

Since this was a total war fought only on American soil, I also count the civilians, mostly in the South, who died of starvation, exposure, and epidemics during and immediately following the war.

But you’re right. 700,000 battlefield casualties is not millions.


54 posted on 03/22/2015 5:32:24 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: PROCON; All
As expected, lots of 'how dare I' rants. Oh well, the high ground is still dry. Equating the Confederate flag with the Nazi or Islamic flag is valid and protestations otherwise is a losing proposition. Even if those defending these flags suggest otherwise, most people view these with rightful disdain. Defenders hurt their conservative cause. And make no mistake, sadly it is mostly conservatives defending the indefensible. Claiming heritage and ancestry doesn't undo the damage caused by those flying these flags, nor--importantly--the pain they still cause. No one is saying to forget your heritage and ancestry, just please put it into perspective. Put America first and don't unduly promote hate, which, too often, is what defending these flags suggest defenders do. Keep the flags in museums where they belong. Seriously, how can an American, a conservative do anything but? Excuses of 1st amendment rights, heritage, and ancestry doesn't undo the violence, hate, and death associated with these flags. Putting the flags away does not disrespect our heritage and ancestors, nor blame them for their actions or inactions.

As an FYI, and it shouldn't matter, I was born in the south, raised by racist southern parents while living in the south and north; have since lived all over the US. My German, Scottish, and Irish ancestors can be traced back to the 1700s in the Ohio River Valley, later parts of the family to refugees from Poland and Lithuania. I am a conservative, a US Navy veteran, and I place myself as American first. No hyphenation, no dual loyalties, just American, right-or-wrong.

Whatever...

55 posted on 03/22/2015 5:37:39 PM PDT by Reno89519 (For every illegal or H1B with a job, there's an American without one. Muslim = Nazi = Evil)
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To: Reno89519

This is the US where flying the US flag should be celebrated. The Confederate flag, in any form, is no different than flying the Nazi flag or Islamic flag.

Seriously GFY


56 posted on 03/22/2015 5:38:04 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Reno89519

Like this one?

57 posted on 03/22/2015 5:39:49 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: All

And what’s with all the posters who cite their ancestors’ Confederate service as an argument that therefore their cause (and flag) is something to be proud of?

If your great-granddaddy fought for the Nazis, would you be proud of that flag, and if so, why? It’s a legitimate question — they were trying to conquer the United States, and they lost, too.


58 posted on 03/22/2015 5:42:58 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Reno89519

Whatever.

59 posted on 03/22/2015 5:43:13 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Reno89519
Ha, you posted back to me because you couldn't take the heat, you coward!

Just because your parents were racists doesn't mean the Confederate flag connotes racism; haven't you been reading the replies back to you?

You want to stifle not only Free Speech but the exercise of it too.

Leave this forum scumbag!

60 posted on 03/22/2015 5:44:33 PM PDT by PROCON (Always Give 100% --- Unless you're donating blood.)
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