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Pilot was 'unfairly blamed for crash that killed Buddy Holly and should...
Daily Mail ^ | 3/6/15 | JOEL CHRISTIE

Posted on 03/07/2015 8:34:46 AM PST by Impala64ssa

... be hailed a hero for trying to avert disaster'
An investigation into the 1959 plane crash that killed Buddy Holly and three others could now be reopened after a respected pilot brought forward new factors as to how the aircraft may have gone down.

At the time of the crash, the Civil Aeronautics Board ruled the probable cause of the crash was error by the pilot, Roger Peterson, who took off from Mason City to Moorhead, Minnesota, in inclement weather, even though he was qualified.

The chartered plane crashed in Iowa not long after takeoff, killing Holly, Peterson, and musicians Ritchie Valens and J.P. Richardson.

Now L.J. Coon, an experienced pilot from New England, says a variety of other factors - such as weight and balance calculations, the rate of the plane's climb and descent, fuel gauge readings and the passenger-side rudder - should have been considered, according to The Globe Gazette.

The National Transportation Safety Board has agreed to consider reopening the investigation.

Coon's motivation was to 'the heroic effort that took place in those 4.9 miles' by the pilot, Peterson, before the plane crashed.

The plane had been in the air less than four minutes.

Coon received a letter from the NTSB saying they had received his call for a reinvestigation.

'You have gotten our attention. Let us do our due diligence in order to give you a proper answer,' the letter stated.

The NTSB will now determine whether or not the submission meets the requirements of a Petition for Reconsideration.

History and many other people believe that Peterson was the direct cause of the February 3, 1959 crash.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: aviation; bigbopper; buddyholly; clearlake; planecrash; ritchievalens
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Images at link. Let's see if any leftist conspiracy kooks are gonna say that the Fundamentalist Christians, KKK, the John Birch Society, etc. sabotaged that plane (with the gov't covering it up, of course) because they found rock 'n roll to be immoral and promoting, as they called it back then "race mixing". Or since Ritchie Valens was on the plane and he was the first Latino to make it big in RnR I wonder if la Raza, LULAC, Cong. Gutierrez or any other imbéciles will play the race card. Years later, the commies put up posters all over Times Square and Greenwich Village saying John Lennon was murdered by the CIA, so it could happen.
1 posted on 03/07/2015 8:34:46 AM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

A long long time ago
I can still remember how
That music used to make me smile
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make those people dance
And maybe they’d be happy for a while
But February made me shiver
With every paper I’d deliver
Bad news on the doorstep
I couldn’t take one more step
I can’t remember if I cried
When I read about his widowed bride
But something touched me deep inside
The day the music died


2 posted on 03/07/2015 8:40:49 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Impala64ssa

Yeah, no pilot error there. A 21 year old pilot, taking off into snow and 30 mph gusting winds, at 1am, for a cross country flight over featureless terrain, without an instrument rating, carrying 3 young rock stars.

Who could ever call that pilot error?


3 posted on 03/07/2015 8:44:43 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Personally, I consider the record company responsible for insisting the musicians go on a tour in the middle of winter with an unheated bus. The only reason they chartered the plane was due to freezing conditions on the tour bus.


4 posted on 03/07/2015 8:45:28 AM PST by Southern Magnolia
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I am a pilot.

The pilot is responsible for everything that happens to the airplane he is flying.

It may not be fair that a small mistake can carry a death sentence to the pilot but also to all who may be aboard, but that is reality.

He certainly is responsible for what happened.

5 posted on 03/07/2015 8:46:24 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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And he certainly wasn’t a hero. A hero would have looked at everyone and said sorry, we’ll leave in the morning, let’s go find a warm place to hang out till then.


6 posted on 03/07/2015 8:46:41 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Surprisingly they aren’t blaming climate change.


7 posted on 03/07/2015 8:48:40 AM PST by uncitizen (Mark Levin: "Jeb Bush? No way Jose!")
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Yeah, cold snaps and blizzards in Iowa in February? That’s unheard of! /s


8 posted on 03/07/2015 8:51:15 AM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: bgill

In an odd and perverse way, that crash was the best thing that ever happened to Don McClean...


9 posted on 03/07/2015 8:53:41 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Dan(9698)

He’s the one who ultimately decided if the plane will fly.


10 posted on 03/07/2015 8:58:07 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Impala64ssa

And it’s a cheery Saturday morning. The pilot was probably a great kid. Only 21 and had his license, working on his instrument rating. Pulled that off in a small town in the 50s. And it was just a different era in aviation. That’s why we lost so many well known people top such crashes back then.


11 posted on 03/07/2015 9:01:44 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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I remember reading once that there was the possibility he was star struck and threw caution to the wind to impress which seems to have been responsible for killing a lot of rock stars in the past, like Stevie Ray Vaughn, helicopter taking off in heavy fog and they have to fly over a 1000 foot mountain, uh.. hello. You just know before that chopper took off they were questioning if it was a good idea. “But you can’t see anything!” “Don’t worry it’s cool man!”


12 posted on 03/07/2015 9:03:55 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Obama: 12 acts of blatant treason and counting)
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In an odd and perverse way, that crash was the best thing that ever happened to Don McClean...

Was a boost to Waylon Jennings' career, too. Or at least his longevity.

13 posted on 03/07/2015 9:05:22 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: EveningStar; Impala64ssa; Jack Hydrazine; Norm Lenhart; Salamander; TheOldLady; spyone; ...

This is the Modern Music Ping List. Our topic is music from the 20th and 21st century, from Ravel and Shostakovich through to the Synth Pioneers and beyond.

Topic suggestions are always welcome, and pings to music-related threads are appreciated.

FReepmail or reply to this post to be added to or removed from this list.

14 posted on 03/07/2015 9:06:49 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Will steal your comments & post them on Twitter)
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One of my students, an 11 year old boy with severe Attention Deficit, has discovered Buddy Holly. And He Loves the music!


15 posted on 03/07/2015 9:09:28 AM PST by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Impala64ssa

https://www.surfballroom.com <—— This is where Buddy Holly’s last performance was in Mason Iowa, they even have the phone he last called his wife on there and keep it preserved.

I’ve read books on him, what happened. One book called “The day the music died”.

Here was a tribute song that was written weeks after the accident, it’s a moving song. Whomever made the video messed up some in the Richie Valens pictures but that doesn’t change the original moving message of the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwO8bsMKuyI

In hindsight, it is too bad they put faith in a 20, 21 year old pilot in a snow storm. That much can be said.


16 posted on 03/07/2015 9:15:06 AM PST by BeadCounter
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Another one-Benny Barnes-Gold Records in the Snow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdaE0v_SfBY


17 posted on 03/07/2015 9:22:40 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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18 posted on 03/07/2015 9:24:59 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Squawk 8888

He did create some good music.


19 posted on 03/07/2015 9:25:25 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Impala64ssa

Patsy Cline was to die in a similar manner, four years later.


20 posted on 03/07/2015 9:25:59 AM PST by cicero2k
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