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1 posted on 03/04/2015 10:30:33 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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I don’t buy the
“Roberts is compromised”
scare

Roberts ruled in favor of the constitutionality of the individual mandate in 2012 because
- he didn’t want to intrude on the separation of powers, and
- he wanted restraint on the Commerce clause

If you recall, Roberts struck down the Medicaid provisions in Obamacare. This protects the states against Federal funding threats.

Roberts defended his position by stating (in essence) that “elections have consequences”

The present case is NOT argued on Constitutional grounds. It is being argued that the letter of the law is not being followed.

I strongly believe that Roberts will shoot down the law on the basis that “words have consequences”


43 posted on 03/04/2015 11:58:28 AM PST by kidd
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Voting against Obamacare would just send the issue back to Congress which should satisfy the courts IMO.


51 posted on 03/04/2015 12:19:01 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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I have a feeling SCROTUS will twist this around to make it “work”. Here’s what they’ll say:

“Article 8 of the Constitution ensures uniform application of tax laws. As such, the Affordable Care Act is in violation, and therefore subsidies must be applied equally amongst all states regardless of participation.”

That means they’ll side with the IRS brownshirts. And even if they go against the law as written, the Marxist moonbat Republicrats will extend the subsidies immediately to “avoid Republic fallout” anyway.


56 posted on 03/04/2015 1:13:43 PM PST by Up Yours Marxists
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Justices seemed “bitterly divided” during “heated” arguments over the law, reported The New York Times. If they rule that the federal subsidies the Internal Revenue Service has doled out for Obamacare plans are illegal, millions of people would no longer be able to afford their plans, and the entire law would be crippled.

The four liberal justices indicated strong support for the Obama administration’s position, in opposition to the most conservative members of the court. Those four will likely have to win over either Chief Justice John Roberts Jr., who didn’t say much, or Justice Anthony Kennedy, who said he’s not comfortable with the administration’s position.

The law states that only people who buy Obamacare “though an Exchange established by the state,” are eligible for subsidies, but the IRS has subsidized plans for millions of people who purchased them through the federal exchange.

PFL

58 posted on 03/04/2015 1:17:53 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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I’m telling you folks, we are just ONE vote away from becoming a third world country.

ONE VOTE!


60 posted on 03/04/2015 3:47:30 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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The libs defense is. “The end justifies the means.” That according to an attorney on Levin. Their usual defense. .


61 posted on 03/04/2015 4:43:09 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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Divided by what? Which moron was most responsible for passing a brain fart of a law.


63 posted on 03/04/2015 4:57:47 PM PST by jetson (Can I catch you a delicious bass...)
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https://libertyborn.wordpress.com/2015/03/02/how-roberts-was-blackmailed-to-support-obamacare/
65 posted on 03/04/2015 5:19:14 PM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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“If they rule that the federal subsidies the Internal Revenue Service has doled out for Obamacare plans are illegal, millions of people would no longer be able to afford their plans, and the entire law would be crippled.”

None of which should be a consideration, IMHO. Either the law is constitutional, or it is not. It’s not the court’s job to “fix” political problems that come from bad law or striking down a bad law.

Of course, I’m kidding myself if I expect this to be better than a 5-4 vote against. Kennedy or Roberts might vote with Scalia/Alito/Thomas. I don’t think we’ll get both, though I don’t think it impossible both could join with Ginsburg and crew (i.e. 6-3 in favor of upholding the law).

Kennedy’s always been a swing vote, so I can’t gripe too much. Roberts, however, has been a big, big disappointment.


68 posted on 03/04/2015 11:36:54 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is always intense!)
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They are bitterly divided over the Constitution, not Obamacare.


70 posted on 03/04/2015 11:39:40 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Tagline under review by the United States Supreme Court.)
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Very nice and informative. Thank you!


73 posted on 03/05/2015 12:23:25 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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Is a tax by the Feds on a State constitutional? It seems to me that this amounts to a tax on the states since the states pay for the health care via their exchanges but the government makes a profit for taxes/penalties for non-compliance.

Things that make you go Hmmmmm.

74 posted on 03/11/2015 4:43:56 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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Don't Take My Care

If you don't pay the premiums...it's not "yours".

75 posted on 03/11/2015 4:49:42 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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