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1 posted on 03/02/2015 6:17:09 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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I heard the ‘RATS and some RINO politicians say last week that foreigners are far superior to Americans.


2 posted on 03/02/2015 6:19:38 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Illegal aliens are far superior to Americans. - So say the 'RATS and RINOs.)
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Impoting the workers for the jobs that can’t be exported.

That’s what’s going on.

It is not immigration.


3 posted on 03/02/2015 6:20:12 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace- No Islam, Know Peace)
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The sorry truth is that much more IT work and chunks of the tech and tech-associated industries would be completely offshored without these programs.

This is completely different from the low-skill jobs that illegals tend to perform: they would be domestic positions, filled by Americans, though with some upgrades in technology and efficiency, if the illegals weren’t hired.

The best thing is to favor the smart and the skilled for legal immigration and to kick out the illegal (who are mostly low-skilled and politically Leftist) folks here.


4 posted on 03/02/2015 6:23:54 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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Where’s Occupy to protest this?.../s


5 posted on 03/02/2015 6:24:38 AM PST by jsanders2001
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We heard the same at a Family Law conference, that firms are outsourcing their legal research to India, it’s quicker and cheaper. We all know how well that works for customer service call centers, right?


6 posted on 03/02/2015 6:24:43 AM PST by yldstrk
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More Americans on unemployment = more democrat voters

More foreign workers = more democrat voters

Let's face it, democrats play this game a lot better than we do.

11 posted on 03/02/2015 6:30:37 AM PST by turducken
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Yeah...right...Microsoft....thats why a friend of ours trained his east Indian replacement and then was laid off...over 10 years ago.


14 posted on 03/02/2015 6:32:37 AM PST by goodnesswins (I think we've reached PEAK TYRANNY now.....)
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Tech companies like Microsoft, Intel, Google and Facebook say they need hundreds of thousands of foreign workers to fill jobs here because American colleges can’t crank out computer science grads fast enough.

Just my personal take, since have worked in IT since the mid-80's ... American colleges crank out enough comp sci grads, they just happen to be foreigners. Part of this is for the sake of diversity, part of this is a money grab. State colleges and universities account for a large percentage of all college grads, comp sci included. They charge two different rates for tuition; in-state and out-of-state. The foreigners pay out-of-state tuition, which is much more than in-state tuition.

I have found that there are very few foreigners that match the abilities of a good American college grad. This begins with the most important thing when come to technology - communication; as in oral and written communication. Deloitte and other IT consulting firms are filled with people that can't communicate. Reason being, they don't speak American. Second to communication, foreigners don't have an American work ethic or an ability to creatively/effectively solve problems. Unfortunately, this has bleed over into a good chunk of the young Americans entering the work force since too many college educators are also foreigners. As they say, those that can't do, teach. We're left with foreigners teaching the few Americans that go into technology degree programs. Those same foreigners doing the teaching can't speak the language and they have no real world experience. Why Americans are willing to pay for a half-ass, over-inflated product they call education is beyond me. It is as if once people get into college they immediate stop being customers and demanding value for their money.

18 posted on 03/02/2015 6:42:01 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (#JuSuisCharlesMartel)
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Perhaps it is time to consider a tax penalty on visa based jobs. I can see a social security type tax. One that is split between the employer and employee of some significant percentage.


19 posted on 03/02/2015 6:42:01 AM PST by taxcontrol
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Post/thread BUMP!


22 posted on 03/02/2015 7:08:50 AM PST by PGalt
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From 2007: Lou Dobbs video on "how to turn down American Worker" for a job.
23 posted on 03/02/2015 7:11:12 AM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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Yep....been happening at my company for the last several years. H1B workers are beginning to outnumber American workers.


25 posted on 03/02/2015 7:29:55 AM PST by servantboy777
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Foreigners are cheaper . Obama is doing the same to the Military ,fire A Sergeant and hire a Private


29 posted on 03/02/2015 7:39:07 AM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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Boo Hoo, liberal IT workers lose their jobs to ‘legal’ HB-1 workers, but cheer importing unskilled illiterate illegals that will vote demonrat.

Liberals want it both ways, “protect our jobs, but screw everyone else if we get more votes out of the deal.”

How about a new HB-1 program to import about a million Asian K-12 school teachers? That might get the hypocrites attention.


40 posted on 03/02/2015 8:06:18 AM PST by Beagle8U (NOTICE : Unattended children will be given Coffee and a Free Puppy.)
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Old story, with even older solution. Solution is variant of W. Edwards Deming’s program that elevated Japan after WWII.

Impose an income sur-tax of 20%, 35%, 50% on wages that exceed 20x, 50x, 200x the lowest paid employee or sub-contractor involved in a business protected by U.S. patents, copyrights, or legal jurisdiction, regardless of location of employee.

There. Fixed it.


47 posted on 03/02/2015 8:55:01 AM PST by RideForever
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Of all the universities in the US offering computer science programs there are not enough?

I’m more suspicious of something foul afoot.


60 posted on 03/02/2015 11:45:05 AM PST by onedoug
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When I worked in IT in a large telecommunications company we would deal with overseas data lines. I watched as Deloitte established a data center in India and layed off a bunch of American workers.

The Schadenfreude was amusing. In their quest for cheap foreign workers they put the date center in the interior of India. Their communications worked pretty well to the cable head in Mumbai but the final link was the local phone company in India. I don't know what they used for data transmission but the joke around the office was it was barbed wire. Deloitte had about as much down time as up time. They lost a lot of money over that. They were constantly screaming at us over outages that always proved out to be Indian local services.

The Indian local telco was a bureaucratic cluster **** and basically didn't give a damn. They worked when they felt like it and we didn't have any leverage. Once the line went into interior of India it went to hell and Deloitte was hoisted on their own petard in their quest to save money and cull American workers.

71 posted on 03/03/2015 1:02:06 AM PST by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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