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Should have been turned over to a court to be tried behind FBI/NSA firewalls. The fact that a judge compelled law enforcement to possibly turn over technology not belonging to them, seems to be worthy of the judge being disbarred and hauled into jail for trying to undermine national security.


13 posted on 02/22/2015 10:20:19 PM PST by Jumper
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Should have been turned over to a court to be tried behind FBI/NSA firewalls.

Only if conducted with a warrant, only if national security is involved.

Otherwise, we'll get to the point where everyone gets to go to secret court before being sent to the camps...

The fact that a judge compelled law enforcement to possibly turn over technology not belonging to them, seems to be worthy of the judge being disbarred and hauled into jail for trying to undermine national security.

I don't think a couple of no-goods holding up a dope dealer is a national security issue. So let the police get a warrant and then show their information source.

19 posted on 02/23/2015 2:25:40 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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NSA/FISA literally means NATIONAL Security Agency/FOREIGN Intelligence Surveillance Act.

This case involved neither National nor Foreign Intelligence surveillance. What it involved was illegal domestic surveillance of US Citizens (even if criminal, there are rights guaranteed by our Constitution) with no foreign connection at all. I say citizens because there was unwarranted (in the legal sense) surveillance of any cell phone within range. Whether the police used what the device picked up for the collaterals at all is immaterial.

All LE had to do is provide enough substantiating information to a judge and they could have gotten a warrant that would have gotten them all they needed to know about this one ‘suspect’.

It STINKS that LE uses these devices, it stinks that NSA et al abuse FISA for many instances. Further, the FISA court is just a rubber stamp. If NSA, FBI, CIA whoever is so concerned about the technology, then quit giving it to LE to abuse.


22 posted on 02/23/2015 4:04:58 AM PST by Gaffer
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Oh sod off! This is off the shelf technology. There isn’t a darn national security secret in there. Cell companies use the same technology to shore up their network during outages or to fill in small gaps in a city. Companies are looking to put them on airliners so you can use your cell phone in flight.


26 posted on 02/23/2015 5:09:18 AM PST by TalonDJ
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Should have been turned over to a court to be tried behind FBI/NSA firewalls. The fact that a judge compelled law enforcement to possibly turn over technology not belonging to them, seems to be worthy of the judge being disbarred and hauled into jail for trying to undermine national security.

I expect he will be.

He's just demonstrated he's not on Team Totalitarian.

30 posted on 02/23/2015 7:01:25 AM PST by null and void (People who deny history are trying to recreate it.)
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