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Turkey enters Syria to evacuate Suleyman Shah tomb
BBC ^ | 2-22-2015 | BBC

Posted on 02/22/2015 1:10:13 AM PST by tcrlaf

Hundreds of Turkish troops in armoured vehicles have entered into northern Syria and evacuated a historic Ottoman tomb and the soldiers guarding it.

Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said the remains of Suleyman Shah would be moved elsewhere in Syria.

He said troops had destroyed the tomb's complex, apparently to prevent it from being used by Islamic State (IS) militants. Turkey considers the shrine be to sovereign territory. Suleyman Shah was grandfather of the founder of the Ottoman empire, Osman the first.

SNIP--

The operation began on Saturday at about 21:00 local time (19:00 GMT) and ended on Sunday morning.

A large convoy, including 600 troops and about 100 tanks and armoured vehicles, passed through Kobane - the city which Syrian Kurdish fighters retook last month from IS - and travelled some 35km (20 miles) south to the tomb on the banks of the Euphrates river.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmetdavutoglu; isis; kobane; kobani; qaraqawzak; suleymanshah; syria; tomb; turkey; waronterror
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This has been floating around on twitter for about 8 hours, but this is the first Western Media Article on it.

Turkey considers the tomb itself to be sacred Turkish territory. If the have blown up the tomb to keep ISIS from doing it, that is a BIG DEAL.

1 posted on 02/22/2015 1:10:13 AM PST by tcrlaf
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Oh, they destroyed it to save it? Sounds like a famous statement from Vietnam...
So let me get this right, the Turks hold onto sovereign Syrian territory in an area they deem critical to their interests but condemn Israel for defending itself against the HAMASTAN enclave of Gaza?
B-stards...
2 posted on 02/22/2015 1:19:09 AM PST by Netz
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To: tcrlaf

The mess in Syria constitutes the greatest threat to world peace since the Cuban missile crisis... IMO.

It would be of little concern if we did not have a petulant child as CIC...but we do, and Russia is not kidding around about either Crimea or Syria.


3 posted on 02/22/2015 1:19:14 AM PST by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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To: Bobalu

So do we need to show a stronger face, or a weaker face to to Russia?


4 posted on 02/22/2015 1:23:05 AM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: Netz

The Turks removed the ancient tomb, moved it to Turkey, destroyed the modern shrine built around the ancient tomb, and plan to build a new shrine some where in Syria closer to Turkey in the future. And I suppose place they ancient tomb there.


5 posted on 02/22/2015 2:03:45 AM PST by Reaganez
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To: ansel12

What we should do is work for an alliance between the US and Russia. We would be formidable if we were allies.


6 posted on 02/22/2015 2:04:49 AM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: CorporateStepsister

That hope from almost a quarter century ago, has been destroyed by Russian and the KGB.

Russia is still Russia, and will always be Russia, it seems.


7 posted on 02/22/2015 2:07:46 AM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: Reaganez
So destroy before it can be destroyed...

The Turks are a real mix of Muslim Brotherhood, secular European, NATO, anti-NATO, former best friend of Israel, now sworn enemy of Israel, support HAMAS, support Syria?, support ISIS? slight of hand politics...where are the Turks in this effort against Islam? Against us, for us, a mix of both? Is this a reliable partner?

8 posted on 02/22/2015 2:23:21 AM PST by Netz
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To: ansel12
While everyone was dancing in the streets in 1989 and talking about the “Peace dividend”, I was wqarnig folks that the Russian bear has been hurt badly but it is (was) far too early to celebrate the demise of the USSR...now we are seeing a new USSR but this time, we have a faggot in the White House so there is no opposition to the new USSR’s policies and actions.
9 posted on 02/22/2015 2:26:16 AM PST by Netz
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To: Netz

...warning


10 posted on 02/22/2015 2:26:31 AM PST by Netz
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To: Netz; tcrlaf

Well, the USSR was broken and destroyed so we did get 2 decades of peace from their nuclear threat, but you are correct that such an evil global threat doesn’t just ‘end’, and they are reemerging.

We got a breather but as we see, even here at FR, the USSR has supporters posting.

tcrlaf is the head of them it seems.


11 posted on 02/22/2015 2:33:58 AM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: Netz

Turks are Muslims. No ifs, ans, or buts.

Recep Erdogan is Islamizing Turkey & secular Kemalism is on the ropes.

When Hagia Sophia reopens as a mosque, Europe will again have an enemy at its eastern gate.


12 posted on 02/22/2015 5:15:35 AM PST by elcid1970 ("I: am a radicalized infidel.")
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To: elcid1970

At the Gates of Vienna once again?


13 posted on 02/22/2015 5:19:43 AM PST by Netz
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To: elcid1970
when Hagia Sophia reopens as a mosque, Europe will again have an enemy at its eastern gate.

It does seem that Russia will be the gatekeeper in that region. Better them than the crooks of Kiev.

A bigger threat is if Assad falls, in that vacuum ISIS has a corridor to the Med. The US is still working for that.

Stability is the only thing that will stop ISIS. Everything the US is doing works against that.

As far as Turkey is concerned? They have a concern of their own. That would be the demands that are inevitable for an independent Kurdish state that would include a lot of their real estate.

14 posted on 02/22/2015 5:40:25 AM PST by grania
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15 posted on 02/22/2015 6:15:40 AM PST by SJackson (“ISIS is now going to regret this … because King Abdullah is not Barack Obama, Rep. Duncan Hunter)
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To: tcrlaf

The sick old man of Europe rescuing a dead old man. Too bad it doesn’t rescue a few live ones from a demon zombie of a religion.


16 posted on 02/22/2015 6:56:23 AM PST by CMB_polarization
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To: ansel12

We need to say to Russia - help your friend Assad.


17 posted on 02/22/2015 6:57:18 AM PST by CMB_polarization
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To: ansel12

But Russia was not always the KGB. There was Peter the Great and other great figures in their history. Napoleon, World War I and Hitler put Russia on guard militarily, and for good reason.


18 posted on 02/22/2015 7:00:55 AM PST by CMB_polarization
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To: ansel12

Putin will not always be there. We will someday, soon I hope, welcome Russia as family.


19 posted on 02/22/2015 7:02:43 AM PST by CMB_polarization
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To: grania

If Syria falls, what problems you see now will be multiplied by five. Welcome boots on the ground and great troubles in Lebanon and Jordan.


20 posted on 02/22/2015 7:08:07 AM PST by CMB_polarization
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