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DOD Report Details Israel's Quest for Hydrogen Bomb (Obama releases intel on Israeli nuke program)
Courthouse News Service ^ | Feb 12, 2015 | JANET MCMAHON

Posted on 02/16/2015 1:08:22 AM PST by fso301

In the midst of controversy over the Israeli prime minister's plans to address Congress next month, a researcher has won the release of a decades-old Defense Department report detailing the U.S. government's extensive help to Israel in that nation's development of a nuclear bomb.

"I am struck by the degree of cooperation on specialized war making devices between Israel and the US," said Roger Mattson, a former memer of the Atomic Energy Commission technical staff.

The 1987 report, "Critical Technology Assessment in Israel and NATO Nations," compares the key Israeli facilities developing nuclear weapons to Los Alamos and Oak Ridge National Laboratories, the principal U.S. laboratories that developed the bomb for the United States.

The tightly held report notes that the Israelis are "developing the kind of codes which will enable them to make hydrogen bombs. That is, codes which detail fission and fusion processes on a microscopic and macroscopic level."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dimona; hydrogenbomb; iran; israel; nuclear; nuclearweapons; obamaleaks; obamalegacy; obamanetanyahu; obamasforeignpolicy; proislamist; punishisrael; rogermattson; waronterror
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To: FreedomStar3028

No radiation.


101 posted on 02/16/2015 9:34:10 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Principled; tired&retired; b4its2late

Why do you think Putin is laughing at this guy? Why do you think he has beaten Obama to the punch every time? He KNOWS exactly what Obama’s reaction will be to every move. He probably knows what Obama is going to do before VJ does.


102 posted on 02/16/2015 9:46:56 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

Just look at their published conventional plans. Half of the ones I’ve seen involve the IDF going scorched earth in a huge way until they can mobilize. Up to and including the use of chemical weapons - and that’s just the published plans.


103 posted on 02/16/2015 11:18:00 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Farmer Dean

The radiation from the bomb itself ceases after the fission/fusion event, yes. However, the neutron radiation in turn can make *other* objects radioactive for a lot longer through the phenomenon of neutron activation. Copying wikipedia because I don’t have the time to type it out myself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb#Effects_of_a_neutron_bomb_in_the_open_.26_in_a_city

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Upon detonation, a 1 kiloton neutron bomb near the ground, in an airburst would produce a large blast wave, and a powerful pulse of both thermal radiation and ionizing radiation, mostly in the form of fast (14.1 MeV) neutrons. The thermal pulse would cause third degree burns to unprotected skin out to approximately 500 meters. The blast would create at least 4.6 PSI out to a radius of 600 meters, which would severely damage all non-reinforced concrete structures, at the conventional effective combat range against modern main battle tanks and armored personnel carriers (<690–900 m) the blast from a 1 kt neutron bomb will destroy or damage to the point of non-usability almost all un-reinforced civilian building. Thus the use of neutron bombs to stop an enemy armored attack by rapidly incapacitating the crew with a dose of 8000+ Rads of radiation,[38] which would require exploding large numbers of them to blanket the enemy forces, would also destroy all normal civilian buildings in the same immediate area ~600 meters,[38][39] and via neutron activation it would make many building materials in the city radioactive, such as Zinc coated steel/galvanized steel(see Area denial use below). Although at this ~600 meter distance the 4-5 PSI blast overpressure would cause very few direct casualties as the human body is resistant to sheer overpressure, the powerful winds produced by this overpressure are capable of throwing human bodies into objects or throwing objects-including window glass at high velocity, both with potentially lethal results, rendering casualties highly dependent on surroundings, including on if the building they are in collapses.[40] The pulse of neutron radiation would cause immediate and permanent incapacitation to unprotected outdoor humans in the open out to 900 meters,[4] with death occurring in one or two days. The lethal dose(LD50) of 600 Rads would extend to about 1350–1400 meters for those unprotected and outdoors,[38] where approximately half of those exposed would die of radiation sickness after several weeks.

However a human residing within, or is simply shielded by at least 1 of the aforementioned concrete buildings with walls and ceilings 30 centimeters/12 inches thick, or alternatively of damp soil 24 inches thick, the neutron radiation exposure would be reduced by a factor of 10.[41][42]

Furthermore the neutron absorption spectra of air is disputed by some authorities and depends in part on absorption by hydrogen from water vapor. It therefore might vary exponentially with humidity, making neutron bombs immensely more deadly in desert climates than in humid ones.[38]
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104 posted on 02/16/2015 11:22:26 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: JimRed

See post 104. The half life of Zinc-65 is 244 days, so it would be a few years before you could go back into the area unprotected.


105 posted on 02/16/2015 11:27:04 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Hulka

You mean the F-16s we sold them anyway? http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/51b-proposed-in-sales-upgrades-weapons-for-pakistans-f16s-02396/

This is just another half-assed Obama attempt to get back at Israel which is highly unlikely to do anything.


106 posted on 02/16/2015 11:30:11 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Actually, even the scientists working on Excalibur said that current materials science and engineering wasn’t up to the task and wouldn’t be for a couple decades. It wasn’t that the idea didn’t work but that the then-current tech wouldn’t let it work efficiently enough to make it a production weapon.

It’d be like trying to make an iPhone equivalent with 1950’s era vacuum tube technology. It can be done, but it’s going to be the size of a house and have a battery life measured in minutes plus you can forget about tucking it into your pocked.


107 posted on 02/16/2015 11:33:28 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
Actually, even the scientists working on Excalibur said that current materials science and engineering wasn’t up to the task and wouldn’t be for a couple decades.

Time's up. There's nothing wrong with a back burner, instead of killing it outright. My take is that if it hadn't been canceled it might be close to ready by now.

The globalists hate SDI.

108 posted on 02/16/2015 11:37:54 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Shwarzenkaiser: fasionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Carry_Okie

This is true, but even the scientists working on it didn’t see any possibility of it going anywhere in the next decade or so. The project was *abandoned*, not summarily canceled. They were right, too. Until a couple of years ago, materials science hadn’t advanced to the point where it would have made any difference. Nanotech materials and processes that might aid the project have only really become practical in the last five years.


109 posted on 02/16/2015 11:45:55 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
Nanotech materials and processes that might aid the project have only really become practical in the last five years.

That goes faster when there's a big hungry customer too. I'm not saying the decision wasn't logical, but I am saying that given the long term, and especially in learning to make more of controlling such force so fast or cutting delivery time, there is a lot that could have been done. Back burners are good. My big problem with procurement is the paperwork and traceability without accountability in the supply chain. I've been there as a manufacturing engineer.

110 posted on 02/16/2015 11:55:59 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Shwarzenkaiser: fasionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Well, they had a big hungry customer for it from 1978 through 1992 and they couldn’t get materials science to meet their needs at the time.

Another issue was on-board processing power to aim the lasing rods. The computer chip tech simply didn’t exist until a couple of years ago - and that is something that even governments pouring hideous quantities of dollars at wasn’t able to advance much.


111 posted on 02/16/2015 12:02:49 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
Well, they had a big hungry customer for it from 1978 through 1992 and they couldn’t get materials science to meet their needs at the time.

I wasn't talking about 78-92; I was talking about 92-2105.

Another issue was on-board processing power to aim the lasing rods. The computer chip tech simply didn’t exist until a couple of years ago - and that is something that even governments pouring hideous quantities of dollars at wasn’t able to advance much.

Absolutely true. But one can learn a lot in the mean time in other respects, knowing the eventuality. Experiments are a good thing. Having done parallel research projects, one just pushes where the pushing is profitable and waits for the path-critical elements. As things are now, we have most of those critical technologies available and would have to go back to the Congress and the President to get authorization to start up all over. That is at least five years out.

It could turn out to be a very expensive five years.

112 posted on 02/16/2015 12:08:05 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Shwarzenkaiser: fasionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Rapscallion
Obama has made public statements that the US is now a Muslim country. You probably thought he did not mean it, but he really did!

I have no doubt that he meant it.

113 posted on 02/16/2015 12:16:46 PM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Ragnarok" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L5nD7-qsEw)
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To: PghBaldy
Why is this not major news? Besides this website, I only see Iranian, Russian and anti-war sites talking about this issue.

Do you think the NYT would report something that might show poorly on their messiah?

Did this even happen?

Yes. Courthousenews is a reputable site.

114 posted on 02/16/2015 12:45:45 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

Enemy in the White House.


115 posted on 02/16/2015 12:56:11 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Spktyr
The half life of Zinc-65 is 244 days

Oh, I thought we were talking about the neutron bomb, which supposedly kills with little physical destruction.

116 posted on 02/16/2015 1:11:06 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

OK, now I went back and read the rest. Mea culpa!


117 posted on 02/16/2015 1:14:14 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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Read the article behind the link.

"The government fought to delay release of the 386-page report"

And see Grant Smith, Institute for Research: Middle Eastern Policy and Judge Tanya Chutkan in the article.


118 posted on 02/16/2015 1:18:15 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: JimRed

We are. The neutron bomb’s neutron radiation converts the zinc-based galvanized coat of construction steel into Zinc-65, a gamma ray emitter.


119 posted on 02/16/2015 1:18:27 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: fso301
Also notice "Roger Mattson, a former member of the Atomic Energy Commission."

Don't trust popular political speech. It's all lies, and all sides are socialist and anti-Israel.


120 posted on 02/16/2015 1:22:34 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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