Posted on 02/11/2015 9:10:08 AM PST by iowamark
The current controversy over whether parents should be forced to have their children vaccinated for measles is one of the painful signs of our times.
Measles was virtually wiped out in the United States, years ago. Why the resurgence of this disease now?
The short answer is that false claims, based on other false claims, led many parents to stop getting their children vaccinated against measles.
The key false claim was that the vaccine for measles caused an increase in autism. This claim was made in 1998 by a doctor writing in a distinguished British medical journal, so it is understandable that many parents took it seriously, and did not want to run the risk of having their child become autistic.
Fortunately, others took the claim seriously in a very different sense. They did massive studies involving half a million children in Denmark and 2 million children in Sweden.
These studies showed that there was no higher incidence of autism among children who had been vaccinated than among children who had not been vaccinated.
Incidentally, the evidence on which the original claim that vaccines caused autism was based was just 12 children....
Unfortunately, it takes time to run careful scientific studies, involving vast numbers of children in different countries. That allowed the propaganda against vaccines to go on for years...
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Natural childbirth is way safer than it was years ago. Being more sanitary in the procedure, and knowing a lot of the risks to the mother and fetus before delivery happens has a lot to do with it.
Or simply asymptomatic and autistic before the vaccine was administered. Some genetic traits have a time in which the symptoms become manifest. Autism may be one of them, although IIRC, the jury is still out on the exact causes.
And the hospital and plenty of drugs and antibiotics and doctors to back up the birth if something goes wrong. :)
BTW, most births in hospitals are “natural.”
70 percent IIRC, it’s definitely cleaner now than it used to be.
In the case of cholera, and a lot of other germs that live in dirty water, you are correct.
Why do you think a lot of doctors do not give the shots when the individual is currently sick with something else? It’s because the immune system is applying an active effort to something else and that is where the risk of overload actually is, when you are actually sick and struggling with another disease. MMR is three related germs, so it doesn’t overload to put closely genetically related viruses in the same shot, if the individual is healthy and not struggling with something else at the moment.
Ya. Life was tough back then. Just 100 years ago. The scary thing is that it wouldn’t take much for us to revert back to those conditions.
Heck, it was only 150 years ago that a doctor would walk from patient to patient with infected hands or they would use the same surgical instrument over and over again without cleaning it.
Or the story about the penny lick ice cream and the spread TB.
yes, and yes their are combinations that have been around for decades and combinations that haven’t yet a child may get three shots each with three viruses. That’s a lot.
You make some excellent points.
This is also concerning, Read this article, the idea of forced vaccinations for the greater good is getting out of control. http://time.com/3703769/vaccine-refusal-measels-addresses/
The attack on anyone who dares resist the pro vaccinate mantra is incredible. I love this quote too! If the State can tag, track down and force citizens against their will to be injected with biologicals of known and unknown toxicity today, there will be no limit on which individual freedoms the State can take away in the name of the greater good tomorrow.
Barbara Loe Fisher, Co-Founder NVIC
From the article linked in #69
The virtues of disclosure are clear. Having your familys name published as a potential hazard to public health would be a strong disincentive to obtaining an exemption for all but the most committed (i.e., delusional) anti-vaxxers. And the rest of us would be able to identify our unvaccinated neighbors, and our childrens unvaccinated schoolmates. This would be especially helpful to pregnant women and the parents and caregivers of children who are either too young to be vaccinated (the first measles mumps rubella vaccine isnt given until after a babys first birthday) or have serious diseases like cancer (as in the case of the Marin County six year old recovering from leukemia) that compromise immune systems and preclude vaccination.
In effect, the question of how to handle unvaccinated children and their parents would move from the realm of school administrators to the community at large. And the community level is where the question is best addressed, since we encounter the unvaccinated not only at school but also in parks, churches, and stores.
There is some risk of community and personal conflict in this shift, to be sure, and anti-harassment laws would have to be strictly enforced. But there would also be potential for the kind of conversations necessary to change minds and get more children vaccinated.
Identify your neighbor Comrade is ANTI-AMERICAN! The idea of “marking” your neighbor who is anti-vaccine would of course require “anti-harassment” laws-we better pay attention to our parental/personal rights when it comes to healthcare with idiots like this one out there who have no regard for individual freedom and liberty.
Thank you, the AMA has been floating the idea for three years that vaccinations be forced. That thought is scary. What next?
What if they falsely assert someone as unvaccinated and harass them? I mean, people in media always assume that someone who gets sick never was vaccinated when that isn’t true.
Wouldn’t surprise me. (sadly)
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