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Democrats Are Now Pushing Obama to Give Guns to Ukraine
The Daily Beast ^ | 2/10/15 | Nancy A. Youssef

Posted on 02/10/2015 10:40:46 AM PST by BlatherNaut

Putin’s proxies have taken hundreds of square miles of Ukraine since the last ‘peace deal.’ Top Democrats want their president to give the Ukrainians the weapons to fight back. Hawkish Republicans have leaned on President Obama for the better part of a year to give weapons to Ukraine as it battles Russian-backed separatists. Now it’s members of Obama’s own party—both within Congress and from members of his own administration—that are calling on the president to arm the Ukrainians, before they lose even more territory to the Kremlin’s proxies.

On Capitol Hill there is a renewed sense of urgency: The top-ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee, Adam Smith, will join with his Republican counterpart Mac Thornberry on Tuesday to present a bill that would further pressure the president to give the Ukrainian government weaponry, although legislators have yet to spell out the specifics of the bill.

And in the last week, a bevy of Democratic pols and former diplomats have said that the United States should do more.

“Later this week—if it goes any later than that...” Rep. Eliot Engel, the top-ranking Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, told The Daily Beast on Monday. “They need the weapons, they need them soon, and they need them quick. Our credibility is on the line, and what’s right is on the line,” Engel said.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; guns; nato; obama; ukraine
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1 posted on 02/10/2015 10:40:46 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

I would say good news except his record shows he thinks til the cows come home.


2 posted on 02/10/2015 10:43:23 AM PST by libbylu
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To: libbylu

Ø kills 2 birds with one stone:

1. Arms Ukraine
2. Russia helps Iran attack Saudi Arabia

Win-win for Ø/Val!


3 posted on 02/10/2015 10:46:46 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: BlatherNaut
List of things Obama is considering

Arms to Syrian Rebals
Closing Gito
Civil Right Charges against George Zimmerman
Iran Sanctions
Civil Right Charges agianst Daren Wilson
Keystone Pipeline
Arms to Kurds

4 posted on 02/10/2015 10:51:06 AM PST by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: BlatherNaut

Cruz wants to arm them too. My opinion is that although it is a sad thing the Ukraine is a (nuclear armed to the teeth) Russian interest led by an unstable leader. I wouldn’t arm the Ukraine against the Russians.


5 posted on 02/10/2015 10:52:42 AM PST by bkepley
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To: BlatherNaut

Russia has for one thousand years ignored its neighbors’ desires not to be annexed into the evil empire. Mr. Putin, tear down that mentality!


6 posted on 02/10/2015 11:01:43 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: bkepley

The way this works is that we will give weapons to a government that most of its own people are unwilling to support. Said weapons will then be sold or traded by the kleptocrats at a steep discount to the very people they are supposedly fighting.


7 posted on 02/10/2015 11:01:56 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: BlatherNaut

I think they’ll first need to help him find his balls.


8 posted on 02/10/2015 11:02:53 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: BlatherNaut

I would like to think that giving the Ukrainians weapons would work. But Mother Russia is right next door and many people in Eastern Ukraine are supportive of Russia. They even speak Russian! It may be worth a try. But I’m skeptical it would help.


9 posted on 02/10/2015 11:07:02 AM PST by Cry if I Wanna
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To: Cry if I Wanna

They only need to be strong enough for Russia to get the message that its not worth invading.


10 posted on 02/10/2015 11:07:54 AM PST by GeronL
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To: BlatherNaut

Cruz and Palin both support arming Ukraine, let’s hope that Obama takes this Reagan like, common sense action.


11 posted on 02/10/2015 11:08:31 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: Cry if I Wanna

A recent poll says most of those in “east” Ukraine want to remain part of Ukraine.


12 posted on 02/10/2015 11:08:32 AM PST by GeronL
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To: BlatherNaut

These were people who fought this sort of thing tooth and nail in Iraq when it was politically convenient to them. And now “our credibility is at stake”? Really? Whose credibility is that, and at what point did that become more important than the interests of the Ukrainians? I have lost any vestige of faith in our State Department to make an intelligent decision on the matter, my evidence being what their meddling in Egypt, Libya, and Syria has cost us, not just in credibility but in blood. Color me intensely skeptical.


13 posted on 02/10/2015 11:09:14 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: BlatherNaut

Stay out of Ukraine. Stay out of Europe. Don’t arm any of them. We cannot be part of any European war. Not this time. We have shown time after time we do not have the stomachs to win.


14 posted on 02/10/2015 11:11:32 AM PST by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: ansel12

Obama won’t do anything, and if he did it’ll be some half measure like vehicles without engines and guns without firing pins or something


15 posted on 02/10/2015 11:12:26 AM PST by GeronL
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To: ryan71

Arming a friendly country is not being a part of the war, we sell arms to many countries on Earth.


16 posted on 02/10/2015 11:14:57 AM PST by GeronL
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To: ryan71

Why not give them weapons? Russian troops aren’t fighting right?


17 posted on 02/10/2015 11:17:01 AM PST by skippyjonjones
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To: BlatherNaut

How is that supposed to help gun control or Muslim conquest?


18 posted on 02/10/2015 11:17:48 AM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: GeronL

Let’s just wait and see what the U.S. sends, if we decide to send weapons and equipment.


19 posted on 02/10/2015 11:25:57 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: BlatherNaut

20 posted on 02/10/2015 11:27:46 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Bush / Clinton 2016! Clinton / Bush 2020! Uniparty Rules!)
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