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Even Fox News is outraged at Boehner and Netanyahu's plan to undermine Obama
Vox ^ | 24 Jan 2015 | Max Fisher

Posted on 01/25/2015 7:54:00 AM PST by shove_it

Fox News is not exactly known as an ally of the Obama administration, especially when it comes to disputes between Obama and House Speaker John Boehner, or disputes between Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Yet two prominent Fox News hosts, Chris Wallace and Shepherd Smith, harshly criticized Boehner and Netanyahu on Friday for secretly arranging a Netanyahu speech to Congress that is transparently aimed at undermining President Obama, and set up without the White House's knowledge.

The White House, State Department, and many foreign policy observers, including prominent former US ambassador to Israel Martin Indyk, expressed outrage over the move. And, in a sign of just how many lines Boehner and Netanyahu crossed, so did the two Fox News hosts.

"I agree 100 percent," Wallace said when Smith read a quote from Indyk criticizing the Boehner-Netanyahu maneuver. Wallace went on:

And to make you get a sense of really how, forgive me, wicked, this whole thing is, the Secretary of State John Kerry met with the Israeli Ambassador to the United States for two hours on Tuesday, Ron Dermer. The ambassador, never mentioned the fact that Netanyahu was in negotiations and finally agreed to come to Washington, not to see the president, but to go to Capitol Hill, speak to a joint session of congress and criticize the president's policy. I have to say I'm shocked.

Smith said, "it seems like [Netanyahu's government] think[s] we don't pay attention and that we're just a bunch of complete morons, the United States citizens, as if we wouldn't pick up on what's happening here."

Wallace pointed out that Netanyahu might face political backlash in Israel over this "very risky political strategy," which could damage Israel's relationship with the United States.

Here is the backstory: On Wednesday, Boehner announced that he had invited Netanyahu to come speak to a joint session of Congress in late February (later pushed to early March) on Obama's nuclear negotiations with Iran, which both Boehner and Netanyahu oppose, and which Republicans are seeking to blow up by forcing new, deal-killing sanctions on Iran. What made this such a remarkable breach is that Boehner had reached over Obama to make the invitation, which he and Netanyahu kept secret from the White House. That is a major breach in US foreign policy, which is supposed to be unified; things like official visits by heads of state almost always go through the White House.

Perhaps worse, Republicans are letting a foreign leader use the floor of Congress to bash the American president, thus not just allowing but helping a foreign country meddle in American foreign policy. (This is not the first time either. Republicans invited Netanyahu to speak to Congress in 2011, an opportunity he also used to lambast Obama.)

For his part, Netanyahu is once again attempting to undermine the American president who is by far his most important ally, and is using Congress as a campaign stop on his own bid for reelection in Israel's March elections.

"BIBI AND DERMER MIGHT HAVE FINALLY GONE TOO FAR"

While backlash was anticipatable, Netanyahu likely did not imagine it extending to Fox News.

"After watching this I think Bibi [Netanyahu] and [Israeli ambassador to the US Ron] Dermer might have finally gone too far," Lisa Goldman, the director of the Israel-Palestine Initiative at the New America Foundation, wrote on Facebook of the Fox News segment. "They miscalculated the American Zeitgeist and didn't realize that when a foreign power, even a favorite ally, shows a lack of respect for US institutions, a red line has been crossed."

To Goldman's point, both Smith and Wallace, in expressing outrage at Netanyahu, pointed out that the Israeli leader had defied President George W. Bush's demand that Israel cease settlement growth in the West Bank, and had resisted Bush's efforts at an Israel-Palestine peace deal. The issue, for them, was not principally one of partisan politics, but of this ostensible ally repeatedly mistreating the United States and its president, regardless of political party.

If the Netanyahu government and Ron Dermer's embassy are watching this, and they certainly should be, they should be alarmed that even this crucially important element of their American support base is beginning to see the Netanyahu government as less of an ally.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 114th; chriswallace; foxnews; indyk; netanyahucongress; netanyahuvisit; obamanetanyahu
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To: shove_it

That’s why I follow One-America-News . . .


101 posted on 01/25/2015 9:50:06 AM PST by laweeks
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To: BfloGuy

Agreed. God love the purity police.


102 posted on 01/25/2015 9:57:32 AM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-))
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To: shove_it

Wallace and Smith are only two voices, and I doubt that Netanyahu will criticize Obama directly. It will be an indirect criticism in that Bibi will point out the reasons why the Western nations and others {Japan, for instance], will need to be both vigilant and prepared for anything and everything that the jihadists will throw at us.

If his speech seems to be the antithesis of the Obama administration’s policies, so be it.


103 posted on 01/25/2015 10:01:15 AM PST by Gumdrop
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To: rightwingcrazy

Its also been years since I watched FOX ‘news’

Apparently Indyk wasn’t equally concerned over the lines that this Obama administration crossed in trying to force feed Israel to bend the knee to Qatar to tell them what their position should be for a cease fire some months back, pretending as if they were somehow an unbiased negotiator for ‘peace’ when they knew it was a lie,

Or concerned over what lines were being crossed when he tried to force feed Egypt to the cult of his senior administration advisers, the Muslim Brotherhood,

Or concerned about what lines were crossed when these evil men it helped to empower are murdering Christians week in and week out all across the middle east,

Or concerned that this administration is attempting at every turn to provide Iran time enough to develop a nuclear bomb, (he must be wondering by now why they cant hurry it up already)

These attempts at ‘peace and security’ have already been the death of many,

Fortunately both Israel and Egypt rejected this evil obama creatures corrupt attempts to directly influence them,

But its not done trying, and with the upcoming election in Israel in March, I’m not surprised its trying to pick a very public fight and he can use every sign and lying wonder (touted in the MSM and by sycophantic press like a sheppard and wallace) to influence and impact the results,

When they finally do get themselves a compliant leader(s) in Israel elected so they can carve up the land for peace with a false agreement, then its this nation that will be in its greatest danger in all of its history


104 posted on 01/25/2015 10:04:15 AM PST by captmar-vell
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To: shove_it

I don’t really care if Fox News is outraged.


105 posted on 01/25/2015 10:09:36 AM PST by sport
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To: muir_redwoods
Congress is not co-equal with the executive branch and SCOTUS; this is a myth. Congress was intended to be by far the most powerful branch of government, except in matters where The US can only speak with a single voice [mostly foreign affairs.]

The Federal Courts were intended to be a very weak branch. They are entirely under Congress's jurisdiction. If the Congress decides tomorrow there will be only five justices on the Supreme Court -- or a thousand -- that's the end of the discussion. If Congress decides to completely reorganize the circuits, or take matter under the jurisdiction of the courts away from them, that's all she wrote.

The myth that we have three coequal branches of government is one propagated by liberals [and liberal civics texts] to take government out of the hands of the people.

106 posted on 01/25/2015 10:13:23 AM PST by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: shove_it
Chris Wallace and Shepherd Smith have their panties in a twist.

The steer and the queer, bloviating, little mikey's boy and blowing sheppie didn't like boner and Bibi. Tough.

107 posted on 01/25/2015 10:15:00 AM PST by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: Yaelle

OMG he is SOOOOOOOOO Ted Baxter, LOL never had this comparison cross my mind!!!!!Thank You VERY FUNNY COMMENT!!!!!!


108 posted on 01/25/2015 10:15:51 AM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: shove_it

“Yet two prominent Fox News hosts, Chris Wallace and Shepherd Smith, harshly criticized Boehner and Netanyahu on Friday”

Fox News is going downhill fast, the two jerks above along with the likes of Geraldo, Juan, Coombs, etc. and RINOS galore, make it a non-entity.


109 posted on 01/25/2015 10:16:09 AM PST by kenmcg
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To: Yaelle

OMG he is SOOOOOOOOO Ted Baxter, LOL never had this comparison cross my mind!!!!!Thank You VERY FUNNY COMMENT!!!!!!


110 posted on 01/25/2015 10:17:01 AM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Kit cat

Rush Limbaugh has even alluded to BOR as Ted Baxter.


111 posted on 01/25/2015 10:18:33 AM PST by hlmencken3 (“I paid for an argument, but you’re just contradicting!”)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Wallace and Smith are the Fox News Closet Liberals. Remember who is Wallace’s father and the seed didn’t fall far from the tree. Smith is in more than one closet.

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*like*


112 posted on 01/25/2015 10:19:09 AM PST by samtheman
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To: shove_it

What’s the “plan”? Just keep letting him be himself? Doesn’t take much to undermine a failed presidency.


113 posted on 01/25/2015 10:19:35 AM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: shove_it
Congratulations to Max Fisher. He wins today's Most Clueless Irony on the Whole Internet.

Fox's late afternoon, Sunday, and prime time lineups are all over the place, unlike the uniformly leftard lineups on the news organs he prefers. Shep, Wallace, and Greta are all liberals [although unlike the former two, Greta is a professional who rarely lets her own ideology leak into her coverage.] O'Reilly, deliberately characterized as a "conservative" is actually a populist traditionalist with no real ideology, and Kelly and Hannity are [usually] conservatives.

So this genius takes the usual liberal straw man that Fox is a conservative monolith, and then proceeds to pretend that the outrage by two lib/progs who would feel right at home on any of the alphabet networks is indicative of something.

Nope. Fail.

114 posted on 01/25/2015 10:21:46 AM PST by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Actually, if you watch the way he conducts his Sunday panels, it’s pretty clear Wallace is a liberal. He usually allows Juan “Brain Cell” Williams to have a soapbox, while he cuts off the opinions of the more conservative panelists.


115 posted on 01/25/2015 10:23:13 AM PST by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: hummingbird
When I see him, I always think of his J. Lo. blooper.

The blooper itself wasn't all that surprising, but the fact that he went Freudian on a story about a female sure was...

116 posted on 01/25/2015 10:30:30 AM PST by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: shove_it

Ha ha Hahahahahaha....

As if CHRIS WALLACE and the mascara wearer GET TO DICTATE what a co-equal branch of government gets to do.

Did Miss Smith get upset when NUMEROUS JUDGES violated the 14th amendment rights of MILLIONS OF VOTERS who chose to codify the definition of marriage for their community??? No?

Did Chrissie call it “WICKED” when Hussein gave a green light to Muslims to murder our ambassador in Benghazi....and then went to a FUNDRAISER in Vegas the next day?

No?

Then they both can shove it.


117 posted on 01/25/2015 10:37:23 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: shove_it
Chris Wallace and Shepherd Smith

Plus Rove, McCain, Graham, O'Really, Beckell, Rove, Geraldo, Jesse's Girl, McCain, Juan Williams, Rove, and Any Way The Wind Blows Hanity, are the main reasons FAUX NEWS "we sorta report as we annoy Conservatives" stays off my TV. Oh BTW did I forget to mention Rove and McCain also?

118 posted on 01/25/2015 10:40:21 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: SoFloFreeper
Then they both can shove it.

I like the way you phrased that.

119 posted on 01/25/2015 10:48:10 AM PST by shove_it (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen -- Dennis Prager)
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To: FredZarguna
Exactly, precisely and well put. Which is why I stopped watching Fox years ago. I can find leftist-to-establishment-Republican editorialising/opinion all over the place. Finding concise, informed, and articulate true conservative opinion (by which I don't mean all the one-issue, rah-rah, our-team-is-winning/losing-today stuff which is also all over the place) is a lot harder. Rush doesn't fit the bill, nor do Brietbart or other popular leaning-conservative outlets. It's harder to find conservative outlets which actually have deep fact at their disposal, without being "conspiratorial". I'm not explaining this well but I know what I mean :) I'd love to find a truly conservative outlet, both fiscal and so-con, which also has the connections and the intelligence to have the "story-behind-the-story", the facts which help prevent we the hoi polloi from being mere cheerleaders for "our team", and also making knee-jerk fools of ourselves, and the understanding of data and explaining data to we the hoi polloi, to help us understand as much as can be understood, which will never be the whole picture.
120 posted on 01/25/2015 10:48:26 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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