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After 12 Years in a Coma This Man Said “I Was Aware of Everything,” But He’s Not The Only One
Life News ^ | 1/23/15 | Ken Connor

Posted on 01/23/2015 8:05:13 AM PST by wagglebee

The history of human knowledge as it relates to the human body is a fascinating and terrible thing. In every age, the ability for physicians and other medical practitioners to effectively treat wounds or combat disease has been constrained by the technology – or lack thereof – available at the time. In the past, people often died from illnesses or injuries that are quite treatable today. Over the centuries, we’ve come a long way. Our understanding of human physiology and biology has enabled us to improve quality of life and extend life expectancy beyond anything our ancestors could have imagined.

Despite our advances, however, there remains a great deal that we don’t fully understand. The human brain, in particular, represents a vast frontier of mystery. There’s much we’ve learned, but for all our progress, it seems we’ve hardly scratched the surface of understanding this most complex of human organs. Unfortunately, it is often the most vulnerable among us who pay the price of our ignorance. In the mid-20th century, neurologists were certain they had discovered a cure for mental illness in lobotomy. But for the victims of this procedure, the price of scientific inquiry was often disastrous.

Thankfully, victims of mental illness no longer have to fear involuntary lobotomy or other ghastly experiments, but there are still vulnerable people who are paying a high price for our lack of understanding of how the human brain works. Patients diagnosed as being in a persistent vegetative state have long been written off by the medical community as a lost cause – a waste of medical resources. In the name of compassion, the families of such individuals have been counseled to withhold nutrition and hydration. They have been assured that their loved one is completely unaware of their surroundings and past any hope of recovery. Sometimes this course of action is pursued even when family members insist that they see signs of responsiveness and awareness in their loved one.

The Terri Schiavo case is one such example. Terri’s parents spent hours each day with their daughter and insisted that she was responsive; her husband insisted that she was a vegetable and past any hope of meaningful recovery. After a bitter legal battle, Terri’s husband prevailed and his wife’s feeding tube was removed. It took Terri Schiavo 14 days to die from starvation and dehydration.

Terri’s husband (who had found comfort in the arms of another woman) insisted he was doing right by his wife. He insisted that she would not have wanted to live in a persistent vegetative state. He maintained that his wife was completely unaware of her surroundings, incapable of perceiving her situation, virtually dead already. In recent years, however, there have been some remarkable stories of individuals diagnosed as being in persistent vegetative state who have regained consciousness.

Martin Pistorious is one such example. After a progressive disease rendered him unable to move or speak, doctors determined that the boy was in a persistent vegetative state and advised that his parents let him die. From NPR:

“But he didn’t die. ‘Martin just kept going, just kept going,’ his mother says. His father would get up at 5 o’clock in the morning, get him dressed, load him in the car, take him to the special care center where he’d leave him. ‘Eight hours later, I’d pick him up, bathe him, feed him, put him in bed, set my alarm for two hours so that I’d wake up to turn him so that he didn’t get bedsores,’ Rodney says. That was their lives, for 12 years. Joan vividly remembers looking at Martin one day and saying: ‘I hope you die’ . . . . And she didn’t think her son was there to hear it. But he was.

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‘Yes, I was there, not from the very beginning, but about two years into my vegetative state, I began to wake up,’ says Martin, now age 39 and living in Harlow, England. He thinks he began to wake up when he was 14 or 15 years old. ‘I was aware of everything, just like any normal person,’ Martin says. But although he could see and understand everything, he couldn’t move his body. ‘Everyone was so used to me not being there that they didn’t notice when I began to be present again,’ he says. ‘The stark reality hit me that I was going to spend the rest of my life like that – totally alone.'”

Pistorious’ story is not unique. There are several documented cases of individuals believed to be “brain dead,” individuals for whom the prospect of an agonizing death by starvation and dehydration was a real possibility if not for the faithfulness of their caretakers. Unfortunately, for every lucky person who was allowed to live long enough to make their state of consciousness known, untold numbers of individuals have likely been allowed to wither and die. A study published in the medical journal The Lancet last year indicates that people diagnosed in PVS (persistent vegetative state) may have a much greater level of awareness than the diagnosis implies. This raises significant ethical concerns surrounding the decision of whether to continue life sustaining measures for these patients. In the words of Dr. Steven Laureys, lead physician on the study, “if life support and feeding are to be withheld, ‘we better get it right.'”

These cases of mistaken diagnoses demonstrate why we should err on the side of caution in protecting the lives of people whom some would otherwise be inclined to dispose of because of brain damage. Clearly, we have not yet arrived at the point where we fully understand how the brain functions after injury. “Persistent vegetative state” is not a diagnosis that can be made with certainty, and this means that sometimes we’re getting it wrong, and people are being sentenced to the worst kind of death: condemned to starve and dehydrate while completely aware of what’s happening, unable to speak out or communicate a desire to live.

This issue magnifies a foundational principle animating the pro-life movement: the belief that the right to life if the foundation of all other rights, the right without which no other right can exist. From this conviction flows the belief that a just society is bound to protect its most vulnerable members, including the very young (the unborn), the very old, the sick, and the disabled. This does not mean that people should not be able to make end of life decisions for themselves, however. On the contrary, people should give great consideration to how they would like to be treated if they find themselves in a coma or a persistent vegetative state and they should make their wishes known through what are known as advance directives or living wills. People have a right to forbear medical treatment if they choose, but that right should be exercised by the patient and not by a third party who stands to gain from their demise or is ignorant of their views on the subject.

Recognizing our fallibility, society should err on the side of preserving innocent life. Conflicting hearsay and self-interested decision making should not suffice to end the life of another, as it did in the Terri Schiavo case. The consequences of being wrong are simply too great.

LifeNews Note: Ken Connor is an attorney and co-author of “Sinful Silence: When Christians Neglect Their Civic Duty.” He is also the Distinguished Fellow of Law and Human Dignity at the John Jay Institute’s Center for a Just Society.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coma; euthanasia; kennethconnor; martinpistorious; moralabsolutes; prolife; terrischiavo
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To: DJ MacWoW
Of course he's a retread. Is Jim around this afternoon?
61 posted on 01/23/2015 1:21:39 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

He was earlier. Don’t know about now.


62 posted on 01/23/2015 1:24:12 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: offwhite

Did Terri sign a Living Will?


63 posted on 01/23/2015 1:24:29 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: wagglebee
‘The stark reality hit me that I was going to spend the rest of my life like that – totally alone.'”

It's hard for me to imagine anything more horrific. Thank God he survived with his mind intact.

64 posted on 01/23/2015 1:29:55 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: DJ MacWoW
"It was posted on this thread and you ignored the info."

Yes I did. It was the author's opinion. No doctor diagnosed PVS.

His doctors did tell his parents to bring him home and let him die because "he was as good as a vegetable". That don't count.

65 posted on 01/23/2015 1:30:17 PM PST by offwhite
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To: FamiliarFace
Not only did she sign a living will, even if she had there was no provision in 1990 that would have allowed for the denial of food and water as life support.

Terri's adulterous "husband" only "remembered" her saying that she wanted to be murdered AFTER she had been awarded a large sum of money (money that he ultimately spent murdering her).

Mikey Schiavo initially said that Terri's condition was improving:


66 posted on 01/23/2015 1:31:04 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
"you know what the WPPFF is?!"

Google is your friend.

"I would normally try to guess, but too many names come to mind."

You do wander, don't you? Just can't stay on topic.

67 posted on 01/23/2015 1:32:23 PM PST by offwhite
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To: wagglebee
"Is Jim around this afternoon?"

BWAHAHAHAHA!

Oh Jim! Please help! I'm in over my head and only you can save me! Ohhhhh.

68 posted on 01/23/2015 1:33:55 PM PST by offwhite
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To: FamiliarFace
"Did Terri sign a Living Will?"

Nope. Does she have to in Florida?

69 posted on 01/23/2015 1:34:44 PM PST by offwhite
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To: offwhite

IIRC, Terri never signed a living will. There was only her estranged husband’s claim - and he lacks credibility and had vested interests, including a live in mistress.


70 posted on 01/23/2015 1:34:47 PM PST by Dante3
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To: offwhite
It's not the authors opinion. It was the diagnosis.

Keep trying.

71 posted on 01/23/2015 1:36:40 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: offwhite; FamiliarFace; Morgana; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
It all depends on whether or not you believe in Living Wills.

My belief or lack thereof in living wills has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING because Terri didn't have one. NOBODY ever suggested that she did. Besides, living wills are for people who are dying, Terri's autopsy proved that she would have lived another forty years.

If you don't believe that an individual has the right to specify what actions should be taken for their health if they are no longer able to make decisions for themselves, then dehydrating and starving Terri was the wrong and illegal thing to do.

Terri NEVER specified that she wanted to be murdered.

Terri's estranged "husband" decided to murder her. Terri screamed in horror when she was told that the feeding tube was being removed, multiple FReeper WHO WERE THERE have told me that.

Do you believe in Living Wills?

Belief in living wills has as little to do with Terri's case as belief in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

72 posted on 01/23/2015 1:36:48 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Do you believe in Living Wills?


73 posted on 01/23/2015 1:36:54 PM PST by offwhite
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To: offwhite; wagglebee

So you can ask questions but you don’t have to answer them? Did that work in your last FR incarnation?


74 posted on 01/23/2015 1:38:55 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: wagglebee
"NOBODY ever suggested that she did."

The court ruled she did.

Oh well. I'm done. You've turned this into another Terri thread, just like you wanted to. And I'm not interested in rehashing it.

75 posted on 01/23/2015 1:40:26 PM PST by offwhite
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To: DJ MacWoW
"So you can ask questions but you don’t have to answer them?"

What didn't I answer?

76 posted on 01/23/2015 1:41:24 PM PST by offwhite
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To: offwhite; wagglebee
Was dehydrating and starving Terri the right and/or legal thing to do? YES or NO
77 posted on 01/23/2015 1:42:39 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW
"It's not the authors opinion. It was the diagnosis."

Ah. So you found it. Very good. Please give me a link to where the doctor made a PVS diagnosis.

78 posted on 01/23/2015 1:44:20 PM PST by offwhite
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To: offwhite; FamiliarFace; Morgana; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
Do you believe in Living Wills?

As I said, it doesn't matter for the following reasons:

1. Terri NEVER HAD ONE, nor was there ever any evidence that she ever did.

2. Even if she did have one, Florida law in 1990 didn't provide for the termination of nutrition and hydration.

3. Terri wasn't dying, Florida law in 1990 didn't provide for killing the disabled.

4. The idea that Terri wanted to be killed WASN'T MENTIONED in the malpractice trial. It was only AFTER the money was awarded that Mikey "recalled" her talking about wanting him to murder her.

79 posted on 01/23/2015 1:44:32 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Post #60, for those paying attention.


80 posted on 01/23/2015 1:45:31 PM PST by offwhite
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