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Governor: Legalizing pot was bad idea
The Hill ^ | January 23, 2015 | Kevin Cirilli

Posted on 01/23/2015 7:13:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Colorado’s decision to legalize marijuana was a bad idea, the state’s governor said Friday.

Gov. John Hickenlooper, a Democrat who opposed the 2012 decision by voters to make pot legal, said the state still doesn’t fully know what the unintended consequences of the move will be.

If I could've waved a wand the day after the election, I would've reversed the election and said, 'This was a bad idea,’” Hickenlooper said Friday on CNBC's “Squawk Box.”

“You don't want to be the first person to do something like this,” he said.

He said that he tells other governors to “wait a couple of years” before legalizing marijuana as Colorado continues to navigate an unknown, non-existing federal regulatory landscape for the industry.

“There's a whole regulatory environment... that really regulates alcohol,” he said. “We're starting from scratch and we don't have a federal partner because [marijuana] is still illegal federally.”

In February 2014, the Obama administration released guidelines for the marijuana industry indicating the federal officials would not target financial institutions or businesses engaging in selling pot as long as those businesses were compliant with state laws.

Despite the guidelines, banks are reluctant to finance marijuana businesses in states where it is legal because federal law still lists marijuana as an illegal drug. Congress would need to pass a law removing that language.

Marijuana is legal in four states: Colorado, Oregon, Alaska and Washington. Congress has blocked the District of Columbia from legalizing pot after voters in November cast ballots that they wanted to make the drug legal.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Colorado; US: District of Columbia; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: buyersremorse; cannabis; dontbogartthatjoint; drugs; federalism; johnhickenlooper; legaldope; marijuana; nannystate; pot; potheads; warondrugs; wod
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To: DiogenesLamp
I don't believe any statistics you produce. I know Libertarians have made a cottage industry out of making this stuff up or twisting real studies to support their claims. Homosexuals do the same thing.

Talk about projection! You're easily the biggest liar this forum has ever know. LOL

261 posted on 01/24/2015 5:20:38 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: Ken H; tacticalogic
Oh, and by the way, tacticalogic doesn't believe that the usage of the commerce clause is a legitimate authority for banning drugs.

If you had been paying attention to the whole conversation, you would have known that.

262 posted on 01/24/2015 5:21:33 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: TigersEye
Talk about projection! You're easily the biggest liar this forum has ever know. LOL

You assert, but offer no proof or examples. LOL.

263 posted on 01/24/2015 5:22:42 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
You assert, but offer no proof or examples.

If it works for you it should work for me. LOL

264 posted on 01/24/2015 5:23:38 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: proxy_user

Well, if it’s traditions you’re looking for, it should have taken a Constitutional amendment to ban a substance, as with the 18th.


265 posted on 01/24/2015 5:24:19 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: DiogenesLamp
No, you lied.

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tacticalogic => The power to regulate commerce with foreign nations covers anything coming across the border.

DL => You just don't like it because it disables your "NO LEGAL AUTHORITY TO INTERDICT DRUGS!!!! assertion."

266 posted on 01/24/2015 5:24:33 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
No, you lied.

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tacticalogic => The power to regulate commerce with foreign nations covers anything coming across the border.

DL => You just don't like it because it disables your "NO LEGAL AUTHORITY TO INTERDICT DRUGS!!!! assertion."

267 posted on 01/24/2015 5:24:33 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Seems like our Founding Fathers had a better grasp of the appropriate role of government than you nanny-staters.

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.


268 posted on 01/24/2015 5:49:07 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: DiogenesLamp
I do not post comments saying we need to *CHANGE* the existing culture.

Who does post such comments? All I've seen is calls for changing some laws.

That's what the Homosexuals and the Abortion advocates say too.

So no answer to my question.

A very apt answer.

No, the question was the first sentence, with that curly thing at the end. Your followup post was irrelevant to that question.

What laws do abortion advocates want to change?

Did change.

So your previous statement was false.

They never said "we need to *CHANGE* the existing culture" - so did you have a point or just an inept stab at guilt by alleged association?

269 posted on 01/24/2015 7:27:22 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
The available information says eating the plant won't get you high. Do you have better information?

Yeah, i've known people who ate small quantities of Marijuana and got high.

Laced, or placebo effect.

270 posted on 01/24/2015 7:28:50 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Lifetime use of marijuana is 44% but past month use of illicit drugs other than marijuana is only 3.3% - pretty narrow "gateway". (http://www.samhsa.gov/data/sites/default/files/NSDUH-DetTabsPDFWHTML2013/Web/HTML/NSDUH-DetTabsSect1peTabs1to46-2013.htm#tab1.1b)

Libertarians have made a cottage industry out of making this stuff up

Yeah, they sound like libertarians, all right: "The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) is the agency within the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services that leads public health efforts to advance the behavioral health of the nation. SAMHSA's mission is to reduce the impact of substance abuse and mental illness on America's communities."

Have any more feet to stick in your mouth?

271 posted on 01/24/2015 7:32:20 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: dfwgator

It stands to reason that if one state does something that the other 49 don’t, people from the other states who wish to that thing will gravitate towards the one state that does.
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That’s true. That’s the reason we have States. Just ask The Founders. The Colorado Experiment may well fail. Things may get worse. Good people will leave. Bad people will move there. A lesson will learned and, with any luck, 49 States will be spared.


272 posted on 01/24/2015 7:33:12 PM PST by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: DiogenesLamp
the drug laws were passed as a result of large numbers of people dying from overdoses.

How many had died of marijuana overdose?

Two people in Colorado shortly after it was legalized.

Irrelevant to the passage of the drug laws, which your claim was about - also I'd be very surprised if those deaths were "overdoses" by anyone's definition except yours.

You evade, squirm, and dodge like every other Drug Warrior.

273 posted on 01/24/2015 7:36:17 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
I also make a habit of pointing this out, not to prove anything to the dopers, but just to *IRRITATE* them.

You failed - it makes me laugh.

274 posted on 01/24/2015 7:42:11 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


275 posted on 01/24/2015 9:15:40 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I ask, “what would have happened if Prohibition had been lifted in only one or two states, instead of nationally?”

Many States were dry or at least had had dry counties for years, after prohibition was lifted. Oklahoma had 3.2 beer as the only legal booze until early 60's. Bootleggers and joints that paid their fees did pretty well. Moonshiners took a beating in the late 50's when the feds began to track sugar sales.

276 posted on 01/24/2015 11:40:27 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs.98¢-89¢<1 dim)
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To: WMarshal
It is amazing how many Freepers are more than happy

You find it strange that freepers can be happy without being stoned?

277 posted on 01/24/2015 11:41:59 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs.98¢-89¢<1 dim)
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To: txrangerette
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --October 11, 1798 John Adams

278 posted on 01/24/2015 11:45:20 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs.98¢-89¢<1 dim)
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To: DiogenesLamp

You are getting so desperate, I laugh!

They were in a most holy place under control NOT of Caesar. Jesus was extremely meek in Caesar’s own courts.

As for Caesar’s realm, would you back abortion because that is Caesar’s realm and decision too?


279 posted on 01/25/2015 2:22:29 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

By the way, you would quickly get whipped out of the temple yourself.


280 posted on 01/25/2015 2:26:56 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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