A ray of hope.
Bmp4L8r
Absolutely irrelevant.
Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention:
No telling what damage the left could do if this ever happened. Either it would be a great deal of damage or the whole thing would collapse.
I hope that the lawmakers in the Article V states are reading Free Republic.
Just as with voters who are “addicted” to constitutionally indefensible federal spending programs, what will bottleneck an Article V convention of the states, imo, is the states who are likewise addicted to constitutionally indefensible pork funding.
That's just a typo. You know, like subsidies for federal exchanges is just a typo.
No reason to not allow them anyway...
Besides, only legislation has to be identical between the two chambers of Congress. There is nothing said about petitions from the several states having to be identical.
-PJ
Be very careful what you wish for...a Constitutional Convention could be a MAJOR disaster.....with 50% of the population not even paying federal taxes and the gibmedats in enormous numbers.........be veeeeeeeeery careful!!
I’m convinced that Congress will never call for an Article V convention, even if the required number of states petition for same. If Congress perceives that there is a substantial prospect that powers of the federal government might be curtailed by such a convention, it would simply spin endless reasons to deny establishment of a convention. These might take any number of forms: argument that some of the state’s petitions were too old, or not identically worded, or that some states’ petitions have been repealed or amended, etc. etc. etc. Even if these claims are specious, Congress will not budge, ever.
What would the states do in the place of such intransigence? Sue? I have little confidence in the Supreme Court’s willingness to honestly deal with such a suit, particularly if it was likely that an Article V convention might curtail court powers and judicial tenure. Again, our robed tyrants would be able to find any number of grounds for such a refusal (e.g., lack of standing) including simply finding grounds emanating from the penumbra of some constitutional provision or another.
Advocates of substantial constitutional change through an Article V convention may face the prospect of simply convening a convention, even absent a Congressional call. Could the federal government physically prevent such a convention? It could and probably would refuse to acknowledge the results, even if an amended or rewritten constitution submitted by the convention was ratified by 35 or 40 states. Would the states supporting the new charter be prepared to tell the existing government “So long, it’s been good to know ya’” and prepare to deal with the consequences? That didn’t work out so well a century and a half ago. Maybe this time would be different, maybe not.
I will note, however, that there is American precedent for this. The convention which adopted our current United States constitution and submitted it to the thirteen original states for ratification essentially ignored the Articles of Confederation which it replaced.
Most FReepers are aware of these links, but I post anyway for review and for people new to Article V. It is our responsibility to make Article V the most understood aspect of the US Constitution.
Most state legislatures reconvened this month. Call or write your state representative and senator to get them on the Article V stagecoach! (Contact info below)
Convention of States - Alabama Way to go Alabama! A good introduction.
The Case for an Article V Convention. Fantastic explanation of Article V convention to the Mass State Legislature.
I would recommend watching the above videos first and then:
Convention of States Lots of information here.
Call a Convention A call for a Convention of States
Article V Project to Restore Liberty Another good source.
Convention of States model Resolution
A Summary of Mark Levin’s Proposed Amendments by Jacquerie
Chapter 1 of Mark Levin’s Book, The Liberty Amendments
Mark Levin, Constitution Article V, and the Liberty Amendments
Rep. Bill Taylor introduces a Convention of States
List of Mark Levin You Tube Videos
Mark Levin Article V, Liberty Amendments youtube video hub
Three hour video of C-Span interview with Mark Levin
Mark Levin’s ALEC Speech, Dec 4, 2014
Gaining Steam? Nearly 100 Lawmakers Descend on Mount Vernon to Talk Convention of States The beginning.
Mark Levin’s “Liberty Amendments” Sean Hannity Special
Convention to Propose Amendments to the United States Constitution
The Other Way to Amend the Constitution: The Article V Constitutional Convention Amendment Process
Friends of Article V Convention Links
Ulysses at the Mast: Democracy, Federalism, and the Sirens' Song of the Seventeenth Amendment by Jay Bybee. Repeal the 17th
Article V Handbook - for State Legislators An important resource.
State Legislators Article V Caucus State Legislators, Join up at this site!
Send this list of links to your State Representatives and Senators here: Contact your State Legislators.
Sample Letter to state Representatives regarding the Convention of States Project and also, Talking Points.
Excellent Article V Letter to a State Assemblyman by Jacquerie
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke.
Let’s all work together to get this going.
With the GOP in the condition it is now, our side will end up capitulating and trading controls on executive power for the repealing of the 2nd Amendment. All the lefties really want from this is the end of our gun rights.
The other evening, Philip Hamburger, who wrote the book on administrative law, said he would add only one one-word amendment to the Constitution: REALLY! He’s right. It’s all there already.
I just got off the phone with a caller from the Midwest asking me to contact my N.J. state assemblyman and ask that he vote for ACR-149, which would apply to Congress for a limited constitutional convention to limit corrupting influence of money in politics and overturn Citizens United decision and related cases.
I searched it under ACR-149 NJ and looked it over. But then I looked at the sponsorship. Every one is a Democrat! That leads me to ask, what’s in it for the RAT party? Oh, that’s right...if the C.U. decision was overturned it would be simple to disguise the free speech rights (read: DOLLARS) of their companies and corporate backers as concerned citizens’ donations and opinions, and would hamper Republican fund raising from similar sources (since we don’t lie nearly as often or as well).
Am I missing anything?