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NATO: Fighting in eastern Ukraine fiercer than ever
AP ^ | 11-22-2015 | JOHN-THOR DAHLBURG

Posted on 01/22/2015 11:19:06 AM PST by tcrlaf

Fighting in eastern Ukraine is fiercer than ever in some locations, NATO's top commander in Europe said Thursday - adding that the weapons systems seen now in the region have in the past heralded a fresh incursion by Russian troops.

"Violence has intensified and changed character in Ukraine," U.S. Air Force Gen. Philip Breedlove told a news conference at NATO headquarters. He said the fighting has re-escalated to levels seen before the Sept. 5 Minsk cease-fire agreement "and in some cases beyond."

Questioned by reporters, Breedlove, the alliance's chief commander in Europe, said he couldn't confirm Ukrainian authorities' statements that 9,000 Russian troops had entered the country.

"(But) what we do see is that the Russian-backed forces have renewed capability now to bring pressure on the Ukrainian forces, and have in several places moved the line of contact to the west," he added

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: civilwar; crimea; donetsk; europeanunion; nato; philipbreedlove; putinsbuttboys; russia; russianukrainianwar; ukraine; vladtheimploder
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All kinds of reports from Twitter sources, some UK, some Rebel.

All agree that there is heavy fighting from Donetsk to west of Lugansk, across most of the northern front, and that the UK front has been broken at, at least, west of Gorlivka.

Fighting is reported NE of Mariupol, as well.

1 posted on 01/22/2015 11:19:06 AM PST by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Looks like Russia sent more “humanitarian” aid.


2 posted on 01/22/2015 11:23:41 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

From one of the more reliable Pro-UK tweeters:

Ukrainian soldiers in Marinka received an ultimatum from Russians. Leave the town or it will be levelled to the ground.

This is west of Donetsk


3 posted on 01/22/2015 11:41:23 AM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: tcrlaf
Rebels are reported to be behind Svetlodarsk, in Svitlodarsk. If true, that would mean the supply route for Debeltsevo, where around 2,000 UK troops are, is cut off.
4 posted on 01/22/2015 12:02:29 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: tcrlaf

From one of the more reliable Pro-UK tweeters:

Ukrainian soldiers in Marinka received an ultimatum from Russians. Leave the town or it will be levelled to the ground.

This is west of Donetsk

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Well, at least it puts the lie to the fact that the Russians are simply observing the hostilities without themselves being involved.

Or was the Russian statement simply a “humanitarian gesture”?


5 posted on 01/22/2015 12:11:18 PM PST by dmz
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To: dmz

It’s a Ukie.
Rebels are all called either “Russians”, or “Terrorists” by them, taking Kiev’s lead.


6 posted on 01/22/2015 12:15:59 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: 1rudeboy

Of course the Russians never had any intention of a cease-fire.

Everyone knows you cannot trust terrorists


7 posted on 01/22/2015 12:30:48 PM PST by GeronL
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To: tcrlaf

and the Russian terrorists would have no pangs of conscience of destroying a whole town either


8 posted on 01/22/2015 12:31:26 PM PST by GeronL
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To: tcrlaf

It should be noted Leonid Brezhnev, the late Soviet leader came from Dzerzhinsk.

Basically, all of this region is heavily Russian-speaking.


9 posted on 01/22/2015 12:36:54 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Russian TV Appeared To Show Russian Marines Inside A Contested Ukraine Airport
http://www.businessinsider.com/christophe-harress-russian-showed-russian-troops-inside-ukraine-2015-1


10 posted on 01/22/2015 12:43:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Russian Naval Infantry.

The motto on their badge:

Там, где мы, там — победа! (There, Where We Are, There is Victory!)



11 posted on 01/22/2015 12:49:18 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 1rudeboy

Notice how the French magazine murders were on 7th and Russia announced sending 120 trucks “humanitarian” convoy on 8th. I think it is possible Russia wanted to take advantage of the news being busy with the magazine shooting.


12 posted on 01/22/2015 12:51:48 PM PST by Krosan
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To: Krosan

Well, the Olympics are too far in the future.


13 posted on 01/22/2015 12:53:54 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said on Thursday his troops were holding the line against separatists and Russian forces after a sharp increase in attacks and the withdrawal of government defenders from Donetsk airport.

Poroshenko, who told the World Economic Forum on Wednesday that Russia had 9,000 troops inside Ukraine, met defense chiefs to work on a plan to “regroup and stop aggression”.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/22/us-ukraine-crisis-casualties-idUSKBN0KV0LL20150122

Guy is starting to sound like Baghdad Bob.


14 posted on 01/22/2015 12:55:27 PM PST by McGruff (We have met the enemy and they are our own party.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Russia. What does Russian have to do with it? LOL.


15 posted on 01/22/2015 12:55:59 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: dmz
I think no one would be surprised if the headlines replaced “Ukrainian rebels” with “Russian troops.” We all, except Putinistas, know it to be the case.
16 posted on 01/22/2015 12:56:59 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Sam Gamgee

The rebels are increasingly being supplanted by Russian troops.

Russia is content to nibble up NovoRossiya through salami tactics than through outright invasion.

Its fighting a covert war.


17 posted on 01/22/2015 1:01:21 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

One wonders how they afford to prosecute this was with declining oil revenues?


18 posted on 01/22/2015 2:44:33 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: tcrlaf

My goodness, “rebels”? We’re still arguing that point.

To rebel against something, requires that they were previously a part of it. From the start, Russian citizens made up, if not an outright majority than a very sizeable portion of the “rebels”. To continue calling them “rebels” especially after August, that’s just disingenuous


19 posted on 01/22/2015 3:49:05 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa

Are NATO troops actually fighting?


20 posted on 01/22/2015 4:42:13 PM PST by DaveA37
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