Posted on 01/17/2015 7:46:30 PM PST by NKP_Vet
The battle over same sex marriage has brought about many legal claims but not all from the couples themselves. Children of same sex couples often sue for the lack of family stability and denied benefits that a non recognized marital status entails. But some grown children of gay parents are now speaking out against gay marriage based on their negative experiences.
First, we need to muddle through all the hyperbole and understand what this debate is really about.
Award winning author and apologist Frank Turek writes in Correct, Not Politically Correct,
Activists want same sex marriage because they understand that government backed same sex marriage will validate and normalize homosexuality throughout society.
In his book, Same-Sex MarriageChallenges and Responses, Greg Koukl states, Same sex marriage is not about civil rights. It is about validation and social respect. It is a radical attempt at civil engineering using government muscle to strong-arm the people into accommodating a lifestyle many find deeply offensive, contrary to nature, socially destructive, and morally repugnant. Same sex marriage advocate Andrew Sullivan understands this. He writes, Including homosexuals within marriage would be a means of conferring the highest form of social approval imaginable.
This is the real reason homosexual activists are relentlessly pushing to get the government to endorse same sex marriage they want the social approval that same sex marriage will win them.
This argument will not likely end soon. States throughout the country have spoken to their desires for their residents, yet activist courts have sought to undo the will of many of these states.
Recently, four adult children filed a brief to the 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals. In question is whether the harm they experienced was due to bad parenting or an overcompensation to normalize gay unions. In some cases, being refused access to heterosexual families left only one family type to model after.
Its difficult to ascertain if these particular parents were simply selfish and without boundaries because they were also gay, as their children surmise. What becomes their theme is that children need and have a God-given right to a mother and a father, despite what the gay community may claim. Their stories reflect some abuse or simply neglect. One adult daughter recalls her male friends being propositioned by her dad and his gay partner. The unnatural preoccupation of sex was a theme throughout their childhoods.
The reason Christians have opposed same sex marriage so strongly is two-fold. The Bible has clear instructions regarding all sexuality, and the Biblical family is the symbol of Gods image on the earth. Removing all signs of God in current society continues to be the theme of the day, as His image is clearly under attack. Why else the vehement demand to normalize what abruptly distorts His image?
One thing is certain. Opening the legal box may provide more questions than answers, at least for the time being.
MaxMax, I like the way you think. Remember the Russian baby boy who was raped by an Australian sodomite couple who then took him to gay bars to be sodomized by their friends?
That is what these people are about. Vermin. Ditch-fillers.
...”It is about validation and social respect.... It is a radical attempt at civil engineering using government muscle to strong-arm the people into accommodating a lifestyle many find deeply offensive, contrary to nature, socially destructive, and morally repugnant......
That’s exactly right...furthermore it deprives them, when granted, the ability to be able to have a full relationship with Jesus Christ as HE intended for them by the healing of their perversion. If socially and otherwise accepted...where’s the sin?
So what's next then...are we suppose to hate the sin of bestiality but still accommodate him for his perverted lifestyle? What about those today who want to marry animals?.... our society has fallen...period.
But...But... I thought child molestation happens only in White well-to-do HETEROSEXUAL parented families where mommy (a real woman) and daddy(a real man) try to keep up appearances to hide their deep dark secrets. At least that was the propaganda spewing from so many of those chick flicks on Lifetime.
Agenda driven to put more on the casting couch, pick of the litter
A male father and a female mother are in our nature. Anything else is fake, artificial and unnatural.
In his book, Same-Sex MarriageChallenges and Responses, Greg Koukl states, Same sex marriage is not about civil rights. It is about validation and social respect. It is a radical attempt at civil engineering using government muscle to strong-arm the people into accommodating a lifestyle many find deeply offensive, contrary to nature, socially destructive, and morally repugnant. Same sex marriage advocate Andrew Sullivan understands this. He writes, Including homosexuals within marriage would be a means of conferring the highest form of social approval imaginable.
From what I've seen Greg Koukl at Stand to Reason has some quality stuff.
Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."
Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.
Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.
2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
But there IS hope!!!
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
Who is this “Gondring”?
I too received PM from Gondring but, he has nothing in the open forum.
He just flew in on PM with some Cockamamie claims about his family and ancestral history.
I replied and have heard nothing.
Is you persona Non-Grata?
Did he take a lightning strike and never got over it, so he posts covertly?
What gives?
This guy hasn’t posted in years and he flies in covertly to deliver us messages, that are well, just weird.
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