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1 posted on 01/17/2015 4:05:36 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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We have got to start holding people in positions of power accountable for their stupid ideas!
2 posted on 01/17/2015 4:09:42 PM PST by W. (Bureaucracy kills enterprise, and communism doesen't work. Any OTHER bright ideas, 0bama?)
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So the bureaucrats want us to starve? How is this different from the Soviet Union under Lenin or Stalin?


3 posted on 01/17/2015 4:09:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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If you eat, you will be held to account.

Folks, it’s getting ugly.

(the last part is for you nice people at the NSA.)


5 posted on 01/17/2015 4:12:00 PM PST by sasquatch
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I wonder if Jessica Culpepper eats food. She deserves to pay all our additional costs this will cause...


6 posted on 01/17/2015 4:12:28 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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Next up, EPA issues reg holding all wildlife responsible for pooping in the woods -—— Yogi and BooBoo not happy!


8 posted on 01/17/2015 4:15:53 PM PST by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack is back is 2015!)
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Why not sue the cows.


9 posted on 01/17/2015 4:15:56 PM PST by Not now, Not ever! (Girlfriend suggested I use pelousy in place of swear words, A good idea, I think)
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We are too far removed from reality in our urbanized, sanitized society. Well, Jessica Culpepper we correct that but will likely not starve herself.


10 posted on 01/17/2015 4:18:43 PM PST by JimSEA
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Yea, that’s a good idea. Bankrupt the food producers to make yourselves feel righteous about saving the environment.


11 posted on 01/17/2015 4:22:00 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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What about the pollution from manure produced by black-robed clowns in the federal courts?


14 posted on 01/17/2015 4:23:40 PM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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Awesome decision..........

Regardless of the majority here that think that being conservative means a license to destroy ground water, and damage people in the process.

The factory farm model was actually invented by a leftist university called Cornell. We were doing just fine with grazing livestock and solid waist disposal which did not create so many severe problems.

If you were take a crap in an open field the DEC could hall your butt to jail for contamination. But these MODERN farm methods could dump 1000 gallons of raw liquid manure in one spot and get away with it.


15 posted on 01/17/2015 4:24:34 PM PST by Revel
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The district court ruling, if upheld, could affect any large livestock facility that produces more manure than it can responsibly manage ...
As far as I know, this particular aspect isn't new. What's new is the vector of liability being a federal agency rather than a neighbor or the state.

Know your manure management liability - Farm and Dairy
The Common Law | PERC - The Property and Environment Research Center

16 posted on 01/17/2015 4:25:11 PM PST by Cboldt
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An Obama judge.
There were only three votes against this loon:

Lee, Mike
DeMint, Jim
Chambliss, Saxby
Isakson, John


17 posted on 01/17/2015 4:25:52 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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this is surely the biggest load of crap i can imagine


18 posted on 01/17/2015 4:28:05 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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If you have e dairy with 2000 cows and your total fields are only 5 acres....... Dumping all your manure and cow shit on those five acres will pollute the water.

If that manure is spread on 300 acres I doubt it will pollute the water. It will help fertilize them


29 posted on 01/17/2015 4:39:41 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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A chicken farm on the Eastern Shore of Maryland was unsuccessfully sued in 2011 for manure run off polluting.

http://www.oceancity.com/ocean-city-today/oct-news/decision-in-chicken-manure-lawsuit-applauded


34 posted on 01/17/2015 4:46:30 PM PST by RedMDer (I don't listen to Liars but when I do I know it's Barack Obama.)
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But we’re told over and over again that organic is better.

Organic means “Grown in poo” people!


38 posted on 01/17/2015 4:52:54 PM PST by KosmicKitty (Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
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Wait till they find out that that pure, healthy, twice as expensive organic food grows in “pure” sh**.


39 posted on 01/17/2015 4:53:36 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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Thank you for referencing that article NormsRevenge. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"This is the first time the federal Resource Conservation and Recovery Act [emphasis added], which governs the disposal of solid and hazardous waste, has been applied to animal waste from a farm."

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

With all due respect to mom & pop, as a consequence of the parents of the farmers likely not making sure that their children were taught the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers as the Founding States had intended for those powers to be understood, the farmers are probably not able to argue the following points against the unconstitutional federal law that they have broken.

Regarding the federal government's so-called constitutional power to legislatively address environmental issues, with the exception of the federal entities indicated in the Constitution's Clause 16 & 17 of Section 8 of Article I as examples, entities under the exclusive legislative control of Congress, the states have never delegated to Congress, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate environmental issues.

In fact, environmental issues aside, note that the Supreme Court has historically clarified, in terms of the 10th Amendment nonetheless, that the states have never delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate intrastate agricultural production.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited. None to regulate agricultural production is given, and therefore legislation by Congress for that purpose is forbidden [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

Also note that the excerpt above indicates the following about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers. Regardless that federal Democrats and RINOs will argue that if the Constitution doesn’t say that they cannot do something then they can do it, note that the Supreme Court has condemned that foolish idea. More specifically, the Supreme Court has clarified in broad terms that powers not expressly delegated to the feds via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate agriculture in this case, are prohibited to the feds.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

Again, I don’t think that the farmers will argue the above points concerning the unconstitutional federal law that they have broken because they were probably never taught about the federal government's constitutionally limited powers.


40 posted on 01/17/2015 4:53:50 PM PST by Amendment10
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UN Agenda 21 at work to eliminate the non-oligarchs.


41 posted on 01/17/2015 4:55:37 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Offend a Christian and he is obliged to pray for you. Offend a Muslim and he is obliged to kill you.)
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"...a decision hailed by environmentalists as opening the door to potential legal challenges against facilities across the country. "

Instead of taking care of this on an as-need basis, the environazis have managed to sneak it through a federal court which let this ruling apply nationwide. That's what's got my dander up.

And how to hold these bastards accountable? Maybe try playing their game back against them! Sue them! Hound them, make their lives miserable the way their followers do ours! Use their tactics against them, give them no peace. It may be undignified, but they sleep well at night, and until tactics change, they will be happy to live with this status quo. Remember the protest to get Gore out of the VP's residence? Something like that, but bigger...with specialized targets [so to speak]. /rant

44 posted on 01/17/2015 5:02:01 PM PST by W. (Bureaucracy kills enterprise, and communism doesen't work. Any OTHER bright ideas, 0bama?)
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