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Saudi Arabia building 600-mile ‘Great Wall’ to keep out Islamic State
Washington Times ^ | January 14, 2015 | Douglas Ernst

Posted on 01/15/2015 9:35:16 AM PST by thackney

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To: BlackAdderess

Owing largely to the fact that they don’t lojack the ladies.


41 posted on 01/15/2015 10:43:22 AM PST by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: BlackAdderess

Good start for them but it won’t keep out the nuke that Iran is currently building......(with Nobama’s blessing)


42 posted on 01/15/2015 10:53:57 AM PST by GYPSY286 (Politicians must USE their heads or Americans will LOSE their heads.)
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To: thackney

How does one keep the idea of ISIS out?


43 posted on 01/15/2015 11:10:06 AM PST by Does so (SCOTUS Newbies Imperil USA...)
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To: thackney

That is a ramped up version of what the Israelis put up for border fencing...and it works!!


44 posted on 01/15/2015 11:36:53 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: thackney

*shakes head* and I’ll bet nobody sees the irony in the largest exporter of Islamic extremism building a wall to keep islamic extremists out..


45 posted on 01/15/2015 11:38:01 AM PST by cardinal4 (Certified Islamophobe..)
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To: knarf

GMTA, I just posted the same thing..


46 posted on 01/15/2015 11:38:36 AM PST by cardinal4 (Certified Islamophobe..)
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To: cardinal4
Late again, I see ...

/8^)

Smacked me in the face

47 posted on 01/15/2015 11:55:07 AM PST by knarf
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To: grania

No, Europe is run by a branch of new world order, the same elites that rule the UK and US.

The elites want their supra-national bodies, mainly the UN with it’s local subsidiaries like the EU, to eclipse national sovereignty in terms of policy-making; of course they’ve also been working on this for a century.

The elites want US citizens disarmed, have been patiently working on this for a century - this is a key part of getting Americans to accept rules set forth by supra-national bodies. Notice how the EU can force its will on European member nations on many issues and the citizens of the various individual nations have no say in the matter.

The elites set up America as a “wild west” of all sorts of freedoms because it allowed them enormous gains in wealth and power - with no income tax. Once the local American elite families were firmly in place, and the elites wanted the US to turn into a superpower and participate in WWI, they instituted the US income tax and central bank.

Nowadays, the program is more to “progress” America towards the elites’ model, the UK and Europe; thus, ending the “wild west” freedoms.

The elites’ conspiracy still needs to be officially “nonsense”, i.e., in the mind of the sheeple it “does not exist” - so the neutering of the American sheeple needs to be brought about by trickery instead of the US government simply announcing that all guns will be confiscated.

The trick being employed is fairly simple, and it was logically possible to start ONLY after the collapse of the Soviet Union:

a) create enemies that attack the American sheeple, and the West in general, ruthlessly and viciously

b) this rationalizes the dramatic buildup of: espionage, military and police/law enforcement in tactics, level of force, actions without just cause or purpose, government spending, equipment used

c) the most significant “enemy” is then transferred from the USSR to “the enemy within”. No neocon could argue in the 1990s that we needed to forget about terrorism and continue spending hundreds of billions to face down the USSR because the USSR stood down, in effect, acknowledging defeat in the “cold war”. This left neocons desperately looking for a new enemy so the US military would not be considered to have “won the cold war” and thus caused its own obsolescence

d) then public discourse / news media / academia / etc is tasked with propagandizing the fallacy that since terrorists have guns, and terrorists are such a “monumental” threat to national security, we need to eliminate all guns from society so terrorists somehow “won’t have access to guns” - and we need to rely on the paramilitary police state to protect us from terrorists - which are much too powerful and adversary for citizens to protect themselves from without the help of the state

e) this trick provides cover for the elites’ government officials to use these illegitimate forces against those who oppose the elites and their programs by simply also labeling THEM as “radical extremists”. The right wing in the US is thus whipped up into a frenzy of support for a “war on terrorism”, providing the underpinnings of public support for not only a still increasing defense and espionage budget and strategic and tactical realignment - but oddly enough they are also supporting the very paramilitary police state that will ultimately be directed against them, the last armed American citizen patriots.

In order to make Islamic terrorism seem to have genuinely originated “spontaneously” and not look like a new world order operation, the terrorism MUST attack various Western countries, not just the US. It can’t be limited to the US in neat little incidents - that would seem too staged. It must really be “unleashed” to do real harm, and very, very few people could be privy to the true instigators. Preferably, those who knew would be part of government intel agencies - thus bound by their oaths regarding “national security”, etc., not to mention an implied threat they would sense regarding any “slip of their tongue”.

The European politicians are little minions of their elite banking backers, the true rulers. The rulers are International - they as a group rule the UK, US AND Europe, as well as the communist bloc (the elites invented and implemented communism as their notion of how to make slave states for those who would accept their “governance”). So the mantra all along as been issued: global trade without regard for national sovereignty is good, immigrants and cultural exchange are good, etc. Politicians that have the blessing of the elites, thus stay in office, are those that can be relied upon to support what they’re told to. Such politicians are very happy to sell out their nation and its citizens just for the thrill of being a “big shot”; that’s why they go along with immigration into their own nation.

The boards of all major defense contractors of the world have for centuries been controlled by the elites. The armaments industry has always been one of their key businesses, that is, it’s like their “stock in trade”, like banking, diplomacy and espionage are. Part of profiting from war is controlling the board of the company that makes the armaments, part is controlling the banking syndicate that arranges the financing for governments to borrow to buy the armaments produced.

I would tend to think that the Iraq area is being planned as a war zone, that the goal is to redraw the national boundaries in that part of the world, creating some new nations that can be more easily “managed” by the financial elites to extract and transfer raw materials. The elites “best friend” (whatever that means in this context) Saudi Arabia is thus bolstering its defenses “just in case war should come to pass”.


48 posted on 01/15/2015 12:11:45 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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Your thesis is totally logical and conforms to the reality we face. My question is who are the elite puppet masters? Are they, as conspiracy theory suggests, the same families that have been around since the Crusades, perhaps earlier?

I feel like a visitor to a strange world that I can observe but one of which I'm not really part of.

49 posted on 01/15/2015 12:25:23 PM PST by grania
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To: CyberAnt

it comes in 2 flavors. isis is the wrong flavor for them.


50 posted on 01/15/2015 12:45:31 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: cardinal4

it is a 2 flavor thing. if you are vanilla you hate chocolate and vice versa.


51 posted on 01/15/2015 12:46:32 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: thackney

Everyone has missed the point. The Saudis are extreme themselves. If the Saudis are that concerNed with ISIS then there is real reason for everyone else to be very concerned. I don’t think we have ever seen such ruthless absolutely no morals and no compassion, respect, or concern for any human life including there own members. This group is pure evil with no qualities that can be described as anything but absolute evil from the pit of hell itself. They need to be treated like the Cocoaches they are, but that is difficult for any society that values any kind of human life.

Everyone jumped up and down and celebrated when Sudam Hussein was toppled and we hung him, along with the other propped up leaders. But he knew as did others and they were confused why they were being targeted when they werw fighting this same group of Islamic extremist and for the most part keeping them at least at bay. By our standards, sure, Sudam Hussein was evil and did many things that I cannot even imgaine. But he also knew how things worked in that insane upside down region and comparativly was aN effective leader and decent man compared to these monsters. The sad sad truth is the way to fix this is to put this same kind of leadership back into power and go back to the old days of the propped up, loud mouth, and ruthless dictators that do understand the region and allow them to do the dirty work that no one else wants to perform. But that answer is way to late I’m afraid. We killed the guards that were keeping this pure evil under moderate control and we loosed this evil to rape, kill and pillage whenever and whereever they desire.

Quickly they are outgrowing the regions they have been operating in and now they are quickly expanding. Soon they will be in everyone’s back yard and then the sound bytes and lack of knowledge by so many Americans will come back to haunt us and destroy us. We as a country lost our ability to see our leaders for what they are and see they are doing nothing but stealing from us while a select group that is not elected actually runs our country. There real leaders do whatever they want and are pursuing there own agenda. Our country is in trouble. These unelected leaders are the ones who wanted to topple Sudam and others and control how we operate in that region. Most Americans are like frogs in a pot that is being heated up to boil them. They are enjoying the warm bath never realizing they are going to be toast at any time.


52 posted on 01/15/2015 12:53:54 PM PST by getsumsense
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To: grania

I call them “business heirs” - but they are also “ideological heirs”. Yes, there’s evidence of very similar patterns in history, notably in Renaissance Italy with its banking families.

In some cases, literal succession of finance and trade interests happens, whether by family inheritence or some other business transfer or takeover.

The Chinese opium trade is a fascinating study in that regard (Jardine Matheson Holdings still uses a stylized opium poppy as its logo), as is the topic of the “court bankers” and their families in Renaissance Europe.

Cecil Rhodes, for example, was financed by the Rotshchilds and effectively “ran” part of Africa for them.

He had no children of his own, and it thus made sense to him to put his estate to work for the causes of the elites. The Rhodes Scholar program is part of his legacy; the country formerly known as Rhodesia was named for him.

Some “top minions” like him have no illusions about the eventual goal being world domination by elites, who they feel have the right and even what they see as a logical duty to rule, since they see “the masses” as so inferior to themselves in capability, imagination and sheer audacity.

If theoretically the top elite financiers were effectively and legally shut down, there are a number of people who would be in a position, in terms of knowledge, capital and influence to effectively take their place.

If viewed as hierarchical organization, it would not be good enough to take out only the tip-top, but the top few levels would have to be brought to justice.

“Cleaning house” would not be so simple as arresting a single top elite - not to mention that without a massive housecleaning to go along with it, it would for all practical purposes be only a minor inconvenience to the person arrested. For example, the “reigning” oligarch of the US for decades was arguably David Rockefeller, a veritable pillar of society in America, thus he was and is simply untouchable by the legal system beyond perhaps giving his driver a parking ticket. Can you see how nonsensical it is to try to dream up a case against a single person at that level of society ? The Constitution allows for impeachment of a sitting US President - but not of an oligarch.

The elites sit atop the whole legal, financial, governmental, even societal (charity, education, culture, medicine, science, etc.) system.

Now, if you start thinking about a massive simultaneous series of investigations, new legislation, massive public support and outrage, directed simultaneously against central banking, espionage, business, financial, etc., interests - that is, their boards of directors and upper management, like 1,000 RICO (organized crime) cases going on at once pushed forward by massive public outrage, where investigations prove things like war crimes, massive market manipulation, treason, etc., being perpetrated, where the arresting can be done with special considerations, maybe you’ve got a start on maybe starting to “break the hold”.

Don’t forget, the elite puppetmasters in other nations can always get their nations to go to war against a nation that throws out its banking elite, and the top people will know far in advance if they need to hop on their private plane for some coincidental travel that takes them out of the country.

And the European people, well, they seem to have adjusted to living under socialism, like a prisoner starting to prefer his cell over freedom or a slave preferring slavery. Could Europe be left alone as a sanctuary for the elites if America somehow managed to give its elites the boot ?


53 posted on 01/15/2015 2:08:05 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Okay .. I was afraid of that ..


54 posted on 01/15/2015 2:41:51 PM PST by CyberAnt ("The hope and changey stuff did not work, even a smidgen.")
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It’s probably better for the world that there are opposing camps of fanatics rather than a single unified camp of fanatics. At least this way, the first thing a fanatic thinks to hate is likely to be another fanatic, rather than some hapless innocent bystander.


55 posted on 01/15/2015 3:37:16 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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