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To: PieterCasparzen
Your thesis is totally logical and conforms to the reality we face. My question is who are the elite puppet masters? Are they, as conspiracy theory suggests, the same families that have been around since the Crusades, perhaps earlier?

I feel like a visitor to a strange world that I can observe but one of which I'm not really part of.

49 posted on 01/15/2015 12:25:23 PM PST by grania
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To: grania

I call them “business heirs” - but they are also “ideological heirs”. Yes, there’s evidence of very similar patterns in history, notably in Renaissance Italy with its banking families.

In some cases, literal succession of finance and trade interests happens, whether by family inheritence or some other business transfer or takeover.

The Chinese opium trade is a fascinating study in that regard (Jardine Matheson Holdings still uses a stylized opium poppy as its logo), as is the topic of the “court bankers” and their families in Renaissance Europe.

Cecil Rhodes, for example, was financed by the Rotshchilds and effectively “ran” part of Africa for them.

He had no children of his own, and it thus made sense to him to put his estate to work for the causes of the elites. The Rhodes Scholar program is part of his legacy; the country formerly known as Rhodesia was named for him.

Some “top minions” like him have no illusions about the eventual goal being world domination by elites, who they feel have the right and even what they see as a logical duty to rule, since they see “the masses” as so inferior to themselves in capability, imagination and sheer audacity.

If theoretically the top elite financiers were effectively and legally shut down, there are a number of people who would be in a position, in terms of knowledge, capital and influence to effectively take their place.

If viewed as hierarchical organization, it would not be good enough to take out only the tip-top, but the top few levels would have to be brought to justice.

“Cleaning house” would not be so simple as arresting a single top elite - not to mention that without a massive housecleaning to go along with it, it would for all practical purposes be only a minor inconvenience to the person arrested. For example, the “reigning” oligarch of the US for decades was arguably David Rockefeller, a veritable pillar of society in America, thus he was and is simply untouchable by the legal system beyond perhaps giving his driver a parking ticket. Can you see how nonsensical it is to try to dream up a case against a single person at that level of society ? The Constitution allows for impeachment of a sitting US President - but not of an oligarch.

The elites sit atop the whole legal, financial, governmental, even societal (charity, education, culture, medicine, science, etc.) system.

Now, if you start thinking about a massive simultaneous series of investigations, new legislation, massive public support and outrage, directed simultaneously against central banking, espionage, business, financial, etc., interests - that is, their boards of directors and upper management, like 1,000 RICO (organized crime) cases going on at once pushed forward by massive public outrage, where investigations prove things like war crimes, massive market manipulation, treason, etc., being perpetrated, where the arresting can be done with special considerations, maybe you’ve got a start on maybe starting to “break the hold”.

Don’t forget, the elite puppetmasters in other nations can always get their nations to go to war against a nation that throws out its banking elite, and the top people will know far in advance if they need to hop on their private plane for some coincidental travel that takes them out of the country.

And the European people, well, they seem to have adjusted to living under socialism, like a prisoner starting to prefer his cell over freedom or a slave preferring slavery. Could Europe be left alone as a sanctuary for the elites if America somehow managed to give its elites the boot ?


53 posted on 01/15/2015 2:08:05 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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