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1 posted on 01/13/2015 8:21:17 PM PST by shepardspie33
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We should be looking to drive down the price of gasoline in Saudi Arabia because we are producing so much oil, Natural Gas and gasoline.

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2 posted on 01/13/2015 8:24:28 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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S.A. breaks even at a lower point than a lot of other producers, so by not cutting production they’re wagering that OTHERS facing higher break-even points will have to cut production:

That would mean S.A.’s market share would climb, permitting them to make more money.

Basically S.A. is saying they’re sick of being made the sucker, with other OPEC guys cheating and selling through less visible channels.

Yeah, they probably don’t mind screwing Russia, Iran and the USA.


3 posted on 01/13/2015 8:25:59 PM PST by gaijin
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The demand for petroleum distillates is very inelastic, which means the quantity demanded doesn’t change much relative to price changes. However, the big winner here is industry, espeically those where fuel is a large part of total cost (e.g., airlines, oil-fired generator plants, etc.). My guess it’s not going to be too long before these industries hedge their bets and start arbitraging the price. That will put a floor on the fall.


4 posted on 01/13/2015 8:28:47 PM PST by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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The countries that are hurting the most right now also can’t cut production because they need whatever money they can get. Right now countries like China are stockpiling oil, but even that will stop when all capacity is full. At that point, only the cheapest oil will sell. I think production may be cut when whole countries go offline, like Venezuela.


5 posted on 01/13/2015 8:29:26 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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With lowered prices, business will start picking up and demand will increase and prices will eventually rise again. It’s inevitable. It will all come back into a natural balance again.


6 posted on 01/13/2015 8:30:35 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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I bet we could drown Saudi in oil.


7 posted on 01/13/2015 8:30:41 PM PST by SkyDancer
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it won’t be us we are all about oil


11 posted on 01/13/2015 9:04:36 PM PST by yldstrk
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I'm laughing my ass off. Venezuela and Russia are circling the drain and I love it. Screw them they both deserve it.
13 posted on 01/13/2015 9:08:16 PM PST by oldenuff2no (Retired US ARMY Ranger.)
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"OPEC vs. U.S.: Who will blink first on oil?"

Neither. The companies with the highest costs and most debt in OPEC and the U.S. will shut down, while those with lower costs and less debt will continue.


16 posted on 01/13/2015 9:49:19 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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Iran is in the drivers seat.....they now are in defacto control of Iraq, since without them the suni ISIS would be beheading them Shiite Iraqis by the thousands. Thus we see the Iranians selling as much oil as they can.....knowing that every penny the cost of gas goes down, hurts their arch enemy the Saudis.

My question is where are the Chinese going to get oil from when the Persian Gulf gets closed down? Because the Saudis need to stop this oil slide, they don’t have more staying power than the strong American Dollar nowadays. Saudis close the Persian Gulf through some ISIS proxy action and what will the Chinese do?

Chinese Navy Practicing in the Indian Ocean by chance?


17 posted on 01/13/2015 9:59:37 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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Obama.


24 posted on 01/13/2015 11:36:45 PM PST by Organic Panic
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BS...there is no “US”...the oil industry is so diverse and spread over areas of production it cannot be controlled. Free enterprise is the reason oil is falling in price...low demand and high supplies. The Saudis and others can no longer control prices...and sure cant control demand!

If we want stability..we have to be the big supplier. Wont happen till we get a new pres.


25 posted on 01/14/2015 1:49:30 AM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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Very interesting. Thanks to all posters.


26 posted on 01/14/2015 2:40:04 AM PST by PGalt
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The economic damage to the West is negligible compared to the foreign policy gains accomplished by bankrupting the Russian Bear (read Belarus, North Korea, Iran-Syria nexus, Venezuela & even Cuba).

The geopolitical shift in alliances and toppling of certain dictators may well justify this phase of American Might being exercised via the old Military-Political-Economic trinity of Cold War vintage.

Ah, the smell of regime change is as sweet as Napalm in the morning!

29 posted on 01/14/2015 6:05:08 AM PST by Jumper
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What these media idiots always fail to realize is that, in the long run, the price of oil (or anything else for that matter) is established by the law of supply and demand. Countries and cartels can tinker with the supply, but they have virtually nothing to say about the demand. Demand is influenced by needs, price, and desires. At low price, the demand goes up, and at high price, the demand goes down.

Horizontal drilling and fracking have greatly altered the supply equation. Few suppliers will sell oil for long if it costs more to extract it than they get for selling it. Saudi Arabia, Russia, and Venezuela and others have low extraction costs, but only when you consider the direct costs. They also have extremely high costs associated with the fact they run their country off the revenue generated by oil sale. When you factor this in, their production costs are likely to be even higher than the costs associated with fracking and horizontal drilling. It remains to be seen whether or not the frackers will beat the socialists. I'll place my bets on the frackers.

30 posted on 01/14/2015 6:33:01 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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the U.S. is expected to increase output in 2015

What a typically stupid article.

The "U.S." doesn't determine oil output. Hundreds of individual companies determine their own production. Now, maybe Saudi Arabia might blink, but American decisions will be based on the profitability of continued production.

Nothing else.

31 posted on 01/14/2015 10:28:46 AM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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I'm not sure who oil companies are fighting, whether it's oil traders, OPEC, Russia, or some invisible market force, but they're losing...

Statements such as this illustrate why what 'experts' say should be viewed cynically if at all.

35 posted on 01/15/2015 7:36:06 AM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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