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BREAKING: House to vote on 20-week abortion ban Jan 22: Roe anniversary, date of March for Life
Jill Stanek ^ | 1.12.2015 | Jill Stanek

Posted on 01/12/2015 1:47:26 PM PST by Morgana

From Politico this morning, in an article entitled, “GOP hopes it’s cracked the abortion code: Republicans unite around a push to ban the procedure after 20 weeks of pregnancy”:

… GOP leaders plan to vote on a federal 20-week abortion ban on Jan. 22. That’s the 42nd anniversary of Roe v. Wade and falls on the same day as the March for Life….

In the House, Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) opted to tie the upcoming vote to the March for Life event after meeting with leading anti-abortion groups and Republicans who have long been vocal opponents of abortion.

McCarthy met in November with a dozen conservative groups, including the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and Susan B. Anthony List, and “reiterated his commitment to the pro-life movement and vowed to ensure that the House of Representatives would be in session and voting during the 2015 March for Life,” a GOP staffer said.

The Politico article notes, “60% of Americans support the 20-week ban, according to Quinnipiac, and Democrats are evenly divided on that specific proposal.”

So, battling a ban against abortion past 20 weeks is a loser for abortion proponents and Democrats. Even so, they’re absurdly trying, for instance, National Organization for Women President Terry O’Neill , who said, according to Politico:

“If you say ‘viability,’ that’s the time where a fetus can live independently outside of the womb. That’s 24 to 26 weeks. But most people don’t know that. So when you just say, ‘Oh, do you want to ban abortion at 20 weeks?’ People go ‘Yeah, that’s really late!’ No, it’s not. And most people don’t know that it’s not late.”

First, the American Heart Association and American Academy of Pediatrics have established viability at either 23 weeks or 400 grams (14 ounces). Politico could and should have corrected O’Neill’s obvious attempt to dehumanize 20-weekers.

7148415_f260Second, 5 months is “not late”? Does O’Neill really want to go there? Does she really want us to start talking about the advanced development of a 20-week-old preborn baby? I think not. Just goes to show the other side’s uphill path.

And the number of perfectly healthy babies aborted past 20 weeks amounts to over 18,000 annually, or 49 a day, counter to another of the other side’s claims that they are “rare.”

The pro-abortion American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists embarrasses itself by trying to claim, as quoted by Politico, that 20-week-old preborns do not feel pain, when even younger babies, 18-weekers, are now routinely anesthetized if undergoing surgery.

The abortion lobby is right about one thing. As Planned Parenthood indicated, a bill to ban abortion after 20 weeks is a “clear attempt to challenge Roe v. Wade.”

It does this two ways.

First, H. R. 36 redraws the line after which abortions would be restricted. At present, the line is viability, according to Roe.

Second, H. R. 36 severely narrows the broad health exception defined in Roe’s companion case, Doe v. Bolton, which was:

… in the light of all factors – physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman’s age – relevant to the well-being of the patient. All these factors may relate to health.

This health exception has basically allowed abortion on demand throughout all 40 weeks of pregnancy since 1973. H. R. 36’s health exception as:

… substantial and irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily function, not including psychological or emotional conditions, of the pregnant woman.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 20weekabortionban; 20weekbill; abortion; house; prolife; vote
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1 posted on 01/12/2015 1:47:26 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Good optics, will go nowhere, but we have to adopt the opposition’s tactic of pushing pushing pushing pushing pushing pushing pushing pushing pushing pushing pushing pushing pushing pushing.


2 posted on 01/12/2015 1:50:05 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Morgana

Obama will veto it and Congress won’t have the castanas to override it. As you can tell, I have no faith in our Congress.


3 posted on 01/12/2015 1:52:15 PM PST by brooklyn dave (IF YOU TAKE THE STATE'S NICKEL, YOU GET THE STATE'S NOOSE)
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To: brooklyn dave

Check out photos from The March for Life. It’s not 60 year old Knights of Columbus. It’s 20 something year old women.


4 posted on 01/12/2015 2:00:49 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy
It’s 20 something year old women.


5 posted on 01/12/2015 2:08:21 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: massgopguy

I caught some photos from 2014 march for life from federalist.com and priests for life group—so many youth, and children


6 posted on 01/12/2015 2:10:29 PM PST by brooklyn dave (IF YOU TAKE THE STATE'S NICKEL, YOU GET THE STATE'S NOOSE)
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Few things more honorable these days than the pro-life female.


7 posted on 01/12/2015 2:34:41 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Not only are they young women, they look a lot more attractive than the average pro-death crew. Before you flame me for being inappropriately shallow, think of the “optics”. The MSM will do anything and everything they can to suppress photos like this.
8 posted on 01/12/2015 2:45:33 PM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: chajin

Kabuki-buki.

Cheeto Boner rides again.


9 posted on 01/12/2015 2:48:25 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Morgana

Immoral, unconstitutional legislation.


10 posted on 01/12/2015 2:49:54 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Morgana

This is great and all, but even if this bill got passed the very first judge that took up the case would undo it all.


11 posted on 01/12/2015 2:53:46 PM PST by Revel
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To: EternalVigilance

“Immoral, unconstitutional legislation.”


Not this [crap] again.

By all means, let’s keep abortion legal until the 38th week of gestation. Surely it’s better to make those 20-38 babies martyrs to the cause instead of saving them, not to mention how a 20-week ban would help chip away at Roe v. Wade.


12 posted on 01/12/2015 3:12:27 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Morgana

For six years, Bush had a Republican congress. At any time, they could have removed abortion from the appellate jurisdiction of the Supreme Court. They didn’t do it.

Roe v. Wade itself says that if Congress finds that the unborn baby is “a person within the meaning of the 14th Amendment, appellant’s case collapses.” They have never done it.

It’s time to say that Republicans will not do anything to stop abortion. They merely nibble at it.


13 posted on 01/12/2015 3:22:39 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: AuH2ORepublican

It doesn’t “chip away at Roe.” It actually reinforces the main lying premise of Roe, which is that the pre-born child is not a person.

Because, if it is a person - which any sane individual knows is the case - the Constitution absolutely requires equal protection.

Even the Roe judges admitted as much, in their infamous decision.


14 posted on 01/12/2015 3:32:51 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: AuH2ORepublican
By all means, let’s keep abortion legal until the 38th week of gestation.

In fact, immoral, unconstitutional, lawless laws like this actually assure the continuation of abortion on demand. Why? Because they completely surrender the only two real moral, constitutional, and legal arguments against abortion, that being the God-given, inalienable, intrinsic nature of the individual right to life, and the absolute requirement that all persons be provided equal protection before the law, first and foremost in their supreme God-given right.

15 posted on 01/12/2015 3:37:55 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Arthur McGowan
It’s time to say that Republicans will not do anything to stop abortion. They merely nibble at it.

They're not going to do more than nibble at it because the American people don't want them to do anything more than nibble at it. It's the same reason Democrats don't substantive on gun control when they're in power. Toss a few bones to a small but vocal constituency and pass a few "feel good, do nothing" bills to shut them up for a little bit.

While I understand that absolute pro-life is the default position on this forum, the truth is that outside of Free Republic, it is a little more complicated, with the majority of Americans supporting limits on abortion, --but not an outright ban.

When hearts and minds are changed on the issue, politicians will follow suit.

16 posted on 01/12/2015 3:55:29 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Morgana
Meaningless.

Q:Why didn't the GOP do this when they controlled both houses of Congress and the presidency?
A: Because they are the same party as the Democrats and Bush is a NWO zombie.

17 posted on 01/12/2015 3:56:05 PM PST by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: Morgana
Do they believe they can overcome a POTUS veto?

I'm pretty sure they can overcome a Senate Filibuster.

Of course, the courts would stop any implementation, but it would be progress nonetheless.

18 posted on 01/12/2015 4:21:06 PM PST by Mariner (First the GOP must die. Everything else comes after that.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one who is uncomfortable with this.
It seems that this stops like 15% of abortions, but this makes it much harder to stop the other 85%.

The unborn are still human before 20 weeks. But how can this be argued with any effectiveness after this legislation defines life by viability?


19 posted on 01/12/2015 8:13:48 PM PST by kidd (What we have now is the federal gruberment)
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To: kidd

There are lots of us who have this immoral scam figured out.


20 posted on 01/12/2015 8:22:41 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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