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Romney Tells Donors He Is Considering 2016 White House Bid
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 1/09/2015 | Patrick O’Connor And

Posted on 01/09/2015 4:07:09 PM PST by presidio9

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To: Elsie

There you are. Perhaps you can help. The zottee said in post 74 that Romney was a Pastor. I think the term is Bishop (as well as god of planet kolob). Who is correct?


481 posted on 01/11/2015 6:15:17 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross
I do not not about the bishop title; but LDSism does NOT have 'pastors' as such.


Religion[edit]

Mitt Romney's religious background has been extensively covered by the mainstream media, especially in connection with his 2008 and 2012 presidential campaigns.[39][40] Mitt Romney is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, members of which are commonly known as Mormons or LDS (Latter-day Saint).

In addition to missionary work in France in the 1960s under the tutelage of Wesley L. Pipes, Romney has served as a bishop, and has also been a stake president in his church.[39] In accordance with LDS doctrine,[41] as bishops and stake presidents are lay positions in his church, Romney received no compensation or money for his years of service in those positions. Also in accordance to his religious beliefs, Romney abstains from alcohol and smoking.[42][43][44]

The Boston Massachusetts Temple, to whose organizing and costs Romney was involved.

Mitt Romney's great-great-grandfather, Parley P. Pratt, was among the first leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the early 19th century. Marion George Romney, his first cousin, once removed, was one of the church's 12 Apostles. Romney's paternal great-grandparents practiced plural marriage, and went to Mexico in 1884 after the 1878 U.S. Supreme Court decision in Reynolds v. United States that upheld laws banning polygamy.[45][46] Subsequent generations of Romney's paternal lineage have been monogamous, and none of his mother's Mormon ancestors were polygamists.[47][48] Mitt Romney's father, George W. Romney, was a patriarch of LDS Church. Romney's wife, Ann, converted to Mormonism before they were married in 1969.[49]

Romney has expressed his faith in Jesus Christ as his "Lord and Savior" openly to evangelical Christian groups.[50] He has received support from evangelical Christians.[51][52]

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_image_of_Mitt_Romney

 

 

 


It would be REALLY hard to turn your back on all of this family history!!!



482 posted on 01/11/2015 7:14:22 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Here’s what the horse’s mouth says.

“The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, whose members are sometimes informally called Mormons, is a lay church. It does not have a paid, professional clergy.”

“Mormon ministers, known as bishops, are not graduates of a professional program. They are lay leaders.”

Any religious organization that is copacetic with figures even as widely opposed as Mitt Romney and Harry Reid probably isn’t being governed in any effective top down manner. But that’s how the Mormon game is played. Anyone moved to play it differently will probably be discouraged and leave it, before managing to work any meaningful reform.


483 posted on 01/11/2015 7:22:20 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Elsie; All; teppe; Normandy
Also in accordance to his religious beliefs, Romney abstains from alcohol and smoking.[42][43][44]

Any of our FR Mormons (who are left) want to point out just where in any of your various books of scripture the above is found?

484 posted on 01/12/2015 5:06:59 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I think you are right. Most of the Mormon Freepers are gone

Radical Christian bigots like the ones that gunned down Joseph Smith did the dirty deed


485 posted on 01/12/2015 5:11:29 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Elsie
Romney has expressed his faith in Jesus Christ as his "Lord and Savior" openly to evangelical Christian groups

Oh yeah!

We've seen lots of MORMONs on FR do the very same thing.

Play UP anything that sounds 'christian' and
play DOWN anything that smacks of MORMON ism!


Office of First President & Living Prophet

November 1st, 2011

The message for this month is -

...to stay on our mantra: We ARE Christians!!

We've been taking a beating on the Internet - especially from those hateful ANTIs on FreeRepublic!
 
We MUST keep the media constantly informed of those things the world considers christian.

We must NOT allow our MORMONness to show thru, as it has gotten a really bad rap thru history - lord only knows why...
 
 
Tommy

486 posted on 01/12/2015 5:21:13 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bert
Radical Christian bigots like the ones that gunned down Joseph Smith did the dirty deed

Poor ol' Joe.

Could NOT keep his filthy hands off of his followers wives!

I'll bet a LOT of those men were in the crowd that got him!


 
 

JESUS: Hey Smith! Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?

JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?

JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?

JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!

JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.

JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!

JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.

JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.

JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?

JOSEPH SMITH: This? “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30)

JESUS: That's it.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: Nah - it was right.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.

JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.

JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!

JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?

JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....

JESUS: What did you say?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.

JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.

JESUS: No...

JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?

JESUS: Nope.

JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!

JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: No; it wasn't.

JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?

JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?

JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.

JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly FAITHbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.

JOSEPH SMITH: But....

487 posted on 01/12/2015 5:23:25 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bert

Hey Bert!

Were YOU ever a missionary???


Missionaries[edit]

Main article: Missionary (LDS Church)
See also: Claims to be the fastest-growing religion § Christianity

The LDS Church has one of the most active missionary programs of any world church. During the church's general conference in October 2014, Thomas S. Monson noted that there were in excess of 88,000 full-time LDS missionaries serving without pay around the world.[10] Young men can begin serving for two years at age 18, with young women able to begin 18-month service at age 19, and they frequently learn another language.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints

488 posted on 01/12/2015 5:28:42 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SamAdams76
I don't think it will play out that way. If Romney is in, I just don't see Jeb or Christie getting much support. The moderate vote will consolidate around Romney. Romney will simply crush them in the early primaries as he will have the full machinery of the GOP behind him.

Christie would probably drop out quickly (as Giuliani did), but the RNC political machine would probably be divided between promoting Mitt and promoting Jeb, so I can easily see both of them staying in the race to the bitter end.

I've always advocated having three "national" primaries. One in early February to weed out the pretenders. Then another one around the end of March to determine the 2 or 3 finalists. Then finally, a run-off in early June that will determine the nominee.

That's a very good idea, unfortunately it will never happen.

Otherwise, it's a good bet that Romney will be our nominee. I know many here don't like that notion but we need to understand that Mitt Romney is well loved by the GOP elite and they still have him in their future plans.

That's the way it works - grassroots support isn't enough to build momentum if you don't have the backing of the party machine. The RNC and PACS, not the voters, ultimately decide who the nominee will be. If not the individual nominee, at least the field of "acceptables." All others just get blacked out and ignored by the networks and talking heads.

489 posted on 01/12/2015 7:14:55 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: central_va

lol

Hillary, Kerry, and Gore

Romney, Santorum, and McCain

for the title of World’s biggest loser!

ROFL!


490 posted on 01/12/2015 8:25:41 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Elsie
 
Greetings, my friend.
 
We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives.
And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future.
You are interested in the unknown... the mysterious. The unexplainable. That is why you are here.
 
And now, for the first time, we are bringing to you, the full story of what happened on that fateful day.
 
We are bringing you all the evidence, based only on the secret testimony, of the miserable souls, who survived this terrifying ordeal. The incidents, the places.
 
My friend, we cannot keep this a secret any longer. Let us punish the guilty. Let us reward the innocent.
 
My friend, can your heart stand the shocking facts of grave robbers from outer space?
 
 
 
 
 
Like MORMONs???
 
http://www.mormon.org/faq/topic/baptism/question/baptism-for-the-dead?gclid=CIvzjI6gj8MCFepaMgodu0MAfg&cid=99112626&s_kwcid=AL!3737!3!43803469335!b!!g!!proxy%20%2Bbaptism&ef_id=VIw7ewAAATNYW2PJ:20150112200358:s
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead
 
 

491 posted on 01/12/2015 12:20:44 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

no, I hadn’t seen you active recently and wanted to let you do your thing


492 posted on 01/12/2015 3:21:42 PM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Elsie

BTW....... have you ever been to Nauvoo ?

We visited there on our trip down the Great River Road.

I think it is in your general neck of the woods. You might find it interesting, purely historical of course. It is a fairly important place in America’s westward expansion

Have you watched “Hell on Wheels”? It portrays Mormons as being nearly as bad as the carpetbagger Yankee scum that inflict Cheyenne with their corruptopn. It’s on TNT this summer

Is thei to be construed as a missionary effort?


493 posted on 01/12/2015 3:32:22 PM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert
have you ever been to Nauvoo ?

No; but I'd like to see it. Last summer I bought a small book about different eating places along the Road.

It's a trip I'd love to take; as I have driven along the Mississippi in it's middle/upper reaches. Quite fascinating the amount of HISTORY that river has!


I've been to Temple Square; and found it quite interesting.

494 posted on 01/12/2015 3:38:14 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bert; Elsie
"Radical Christian bigots like the ones that gunned down Joseph Smith did the dirty deed "

Hmmm...shades of a similar post from a couple of years back...

The anti Mormons here have blood on their hands....... they are the scum left from the Mormon killers of old

12 posted on Monday, July 23, 2012 10:03:53 AM by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))

495 posted on 01/12/2015 3:40:54 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: bert
Is thei to be construed as a missionary effort?

Probably not.

496 posted on 01/12/2015 3:45:49 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bert
no, I hadn’t seen you active recently and wanted to let you do your thing

Thanks!

I just LOVE getting historical facts about MormonISM out to the public; without worrying about having a door slammed in my face.

497 posted on 01/12/2015 3:47:52 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bert

I see you relied to 488.

Did you miss the question at 484?


498 posted on 01/12/2015 3:49:11 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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