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1 posted on 12/28/2014 9:36:52 AM PST by Kaslin
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I’m part of a red light camera class action lawsuit here in Florida. Big abuse of the red light cameras. I have to remember to check the status of the lawsuit this week.


2 posted on 12/28/2014 9:39:33 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Coakley/Gruber 2016!!!)
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Freedom-loving people should smash down these damn cameras.

I’ve never seen one here in Maine, fortunately.


3 posted on 12/28/2014 9:47:18 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Everytime the cash register rings in a gun store, a Founding Father gets his wings.)
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Hate, hate, hate those cameras. We survived decades without using them. Feel like rats in a maze for the govt. glaze. That they use cameras and police as revenue collectors is a disgraceful shame. Politicians should run on the issue with promises to get rid of this extortion by govt. —unless they lie.


4 posted on 12/28/2014 9:49:12 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny, dontchyaknow.)
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To: Kaslin
I don't like cameras either but I have a difficult time in principle finding a reason to oppose them. Corruption is not a unique feature of the red light camera deal. Virtually any government function involving money is corrupt. The program should be ethically and honestly run of course. But good luck with most muni governments being honest. Best just to drive within the law.
5 posted on 12/28/2014 9:49:32 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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I don’t see where there’s a libertarian quandary with these. They’re a pure big government cash grab with nothing to recommend them, clearly the kind of thing libertarians are against.


12 posted on 12/28/2014 10:02:01 AM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: Kaslin

Tip of the iceberg, boys, I blame the libertarians!


13 posted on 12/28/2014 10:03:32 AM PST by BlackAdderess
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This guy wouldn’t like driving through Europe. Of course every city that puts up these cameras obligatory says “we’re not setting these up for revenue, they are for your own safety.”


14 posted on 12/28/2014 10:21:38 AM PST by Organic Panic
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If they stored video rather than single shot pictures, showed what the status of the lights were (did you run it 0.1 second after it turned red or ten seconds late?) and didn't nail you for clearing an intersection you had entered when the light was green I might accept the red light cameras. Also the fines should be handled in a way which doesn't encourage corruption, so payments to the camera companies, the police or the judges are right out. Maybe the city's general fund, but even that can get corrupted when you have small cities which get half their revenue from traffic fines (remind me to pee on New Rome's grave again).

But I don't see any of those being done, so dump the red light and speed cameras.

15 posted on 12/28/2014 10:22:58 AM PST by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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Counties and cities often lower the length of the yellow light phase when they install the cameras to a couple of seconds.

When the Georgia legislature passed a law requiring traffic lights in the state to have a minimum of 4 seconds for the yellow light phase, the number of camera based tickets dropped by 80%. This disproved the idea that the cameras were only catching dangerous drivers running redlights.


17 posted on 12/28/2014 10:35:50 AM PST by Stevenc131
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Our town has never had the speed cameras but we did have red-light cameras. They were sold as (of course) a safety measure that would only be used in school zones. Now who would complain about that?!

Once they got their foot in the door they quickly expanded to every major intersection in town. Despite all the negative fallout the (pubbie) mayor refused to remove them. He’s not the mayor anymore.

Oh and they’re removing the cameras as we speak.


18 posted on 12/28/2014 10:35:56 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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The problem with red-light cameras is they aren’t profitable forever. People learn to stop running red lights and the cameras eventually cost more to operate than they bring in. The solution, of course, is to shave half a second off the yellow light and WALLAH! MONEY! For a while.

But there is really no need for red-light cameras at all. If there is an intersection with lots of red-light runners, it means the yellow isn’t long enough. Add a second or two, and the red-light runners disappear.

But as Ayn Rand said, the only power government has is the power to punish criminals, and when there aren’t enough criminals you pass more laws to manufacture more criminals.


20 posted on 12/28/2014 11:00:26 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Black lies matter.)
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To: Kaslin

Urban legend I’m sure, but while running the light with a camera, we always use to talk about covered license plates, dropping trou and shooting a bare moon out the rear window. (A BA against glass is called a pressed ham)


34 posted on 12/28/2014 12:08:08 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Kaslin

Red light cameras are an abuse of government power.


35 posted on 12/28/2014 12:17:28 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Kaslin

IOW, they’re working just the way liberals want them to work.


43 posted on 12/28/2014 1:15:49 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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Re: “A universal peeve of motorists, being fined for a harmless rolling right on red.”

Harmless?

The author must have no experience as a pedestrian.

I live in a busy downtown area and walk everywhere.

My greatest fear and most frequent close call?

People making right turns on red.

If you happen to be on the right side of their car, they are staring left, at oncoming traffic, and have NO idea you are there.


50 posted on 12/28/2014 5:54:51 PM PST by zeestephen
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ping me


52 posted on 12/28/2014 6:53:48 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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