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Florida Leaves New York Behind in Its Rear-View Mirror
National Review ^ | 12/26/2014 | John Fund

Posted on 12/26/2014 6:33:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind

It’s official. Florida is the nation’s third-largest state with 19.7 million people. It surpassed New York this month by adding an average of 803 new residents every day as opposed to New York’s 140.

Contrary to the stereotype, sun-seeking seniors aren’t the main drivers of Florida’s population growth. James Johnson, a business professor at the University of North Carolina, told the AP that Florida’s powerful economic engine is driving its growth: “I think it’s going to be for the 21st century what California or New York was for the 20th century.”

As the James Madison Institute reports, Florida’s growth is built on a consensus that taxes, spending, and regulation should be restrained. Its budget is half the size of New York State’s, it lacks a state income tax, and it is much easier to start and run a business there than in many northeastern states.

As a result, Florida has experienced solid job growth (the third-highest in the nation for private-sector employment). Its workforce is better prepared than that of many states. Education Week’s annual rating of state schools gave Florida its No. 6 ranking, earning top grades for standards, accountability, early childhood education, and career preparation.

“Florida is an example of what can happen when the private sector, local governments, the legislature, and the governor all work together to promote a climate that fosters innovation and job creation,” says Bob McClure, president of the James Madison Institute.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Florida; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: california; demographics; economy; florida; newyork; texas
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To: SeekAndFind

With the permanent ban on fracking in upstate New York by Gov. Cue ball, the downhill slide will continue.


41 posted on 12/26/2014 9:49:13 AM PST by headstamp 2
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To: Vaduz

“If you like blistering hot summers and six months of Santa Ana winds.”

.... six months of Santa Ana winds. That is simply FALSE.

I’ve felt Blistering hot summers in Texas, Indiana, Colorado, and California. Give me dry heat, any day.


42 posted on 12/26/2014 10:01:16 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: RegulatorCountry
“Living under a bridge in CA is better than prospering in a humid climate, I take it? “

For me, yes it is, having spent a lot of time in Memphis for a company for which I once worked. I am retired so a lot of what perturbs younger folks here doesn't affect me. That said, I have three children who also are living here, raising their families. Two of them have six figure incomes and also love living here. Sure, our politicians are Commies, but for the most part, they are simply an annoying bunch of overpaid a$$holes who diddle on the taxpayer's dime. Unlike a lot of the NE States, California does not have an infrastructure that's crumbing in decay from years of neglect, and while I am no fan of illegal immigration, at least the Mexicans are here, for the most part to work and earn a living, which cannot be said for the “indigenous” black population of Gibbsmedats. They could all pack up and leave the state tomorrow and things would be immediately better (and FWIW, the real estate prices in San Francisco have done what the RAT welfare government could never do to drive the scum from the city). Even the beggars who stand on the streets looking for handouts are well dressed. My wife was born and raised in Nevada and has no interest in returning to Las Vegas because it's nothing like the small town she grew up in 50 years ago.s AZ is a nice place to visit in the winter, but 114 in the shade in the summer, no thanks. Idaho and Utah are nice if you like Mormonism and “survivalists” or polygamists. So I will stay where I am. We have had a good life in California and it's still the best place on earth to live (well you might want to exclude Los Angeles).

43 posted on 12/26/2014 10:35:30 AM PST by vette6387
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To: SeekAndFind

The Middle of Nowhere! (I don’t want anybody to know where I am.) YES! It was worth it!


44 posted on 12/26/2014 11:23:34 AM PST by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: Kozy

RE: Here’s a common sense idea for nephew. Look at the growth states, Texas, Tennessee, South Carolina, North Carolina, Florida. That’s where the jobs are or will be.

Yeah, I know. His problem is his LAW degree. It’s not portable. He has to take the bar again for each and everyone of the above states you mentioned.


45 posted on 12/26/2014 11:45:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: Pontiac

“”I would say three. The Finger Lakes wine grape growing and tourist area has been growing rapidly for thirty years.””

That IS in upstate NY so doesn’t count as a third....


46 posted on 12/26/2014 2:03:24 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush
Maybe I don’t speak New Yorker

Does upstate New York constitute everything West of the coast?

47 posted on 12/26/2014 2:23:12 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: txrefugee
Some of them do try.

But since Florida has no State income tax, they find it a lot harder to convince people to pay more for everything, in order to fund their social programs.

We are also a “right to work” state, so most people who work for a living don't belong to the RICO Unions.

It is sad that there are several regions in the State that are filled with crime and corruption, but looking long term, it's also an eventually self-correcting problem, thanks to various property taxes, insurance rates, low welfare benefits, hurricanes and sink holes.

Not to mention voter ID, and the requirements to prove identity to get a drivers license.

48 posted on 12/26/2014 3:35:36 PM PST by sarasmom ( Extortion 17. Obama's revenge on the DOD for the killing of Osama Bin Ladin.)
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To: SeekAndFind
it lacks a state income tax

But the homeowners insurance and property taxes will easily chew up those 'savings'....

49 posted on 12/26/2014 3:43:09 PM PST by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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To: ErnBatavia

RE: But the homeowners insurance and property taxes will easily chew up those ‘savings’....

You should see the rates for insurance and property taxes in New Jersey and New York... PLUS, you also have income tax.


50 posted on 12/26/2014 4:28:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: Pontiac

Upstate New York is a region of the U.S. state of New York north of the core of the New York metropolitan area. There is no clear or official boundary between Upstate New York and Downstate New York, and other names exist for regions north of New York City — either as part of, or distinct from, the Upstate region.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstate_New_York


51 posted on 12/26/2014 5:55:01 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush
Upstate New York is a region of the U.S. state of New York north of the core of the New York metropolitan area.

That is a fairly meaningless definition.

That is essentially all of New York State other than NYC.

Pretty much it was my definition of Upstate New York.

Does upstate New York constitute everything West of the coast?

Everything west of NYC.

52 posted on 12/27/2014 3:08:45 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

Guess you didn’t bother to look at the map on Wikipedia....


53 posted on 12/27/2014 5:34:46 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: truth_seeker

110 for weeks on end lived here for 20 years never had a one nice summer yet now the damned Santa Anna’s at work.


54 posted on 12/27/2014 7:22:58 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Thank You Rush
You’re right I did not look at the map. Generally I do not care for Wikipedia.

But after looking I see that according to their map most of the Finger Lakes would be in what they consider Western New York.

55 posted on 12/27/2014 7:34:53 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

I think that would only be correct if you counted the lakes that are further west than the FIVE that gave the area its name. We had NY history in school - many, many eons ago - and only five lakes were known as the Finger Lakes at that time: Seneca, Cayuga, Keuka, Canandaigua, Skaneateles - five lakes stretched down across the state like five fingers. Having moved away from the area 57 years ago, I see the other six lakes are lumped into the Finger Lakes now.

It would seem that there is still some confusion or disagreement regarding the area as my relatives and school friends still in the area claim there are five Finger Lakes where the below excerpt cites only seven are known as the Finger Lakes. I guess that would be measured by someone with seven fingers on one hand??

“”The Finger Lakes are a chain of lakes in the west-central section of Upstate New York that are a popular tourist destination. There are actually eleven lakes in the region, but only seven of the largest are commonly identified as the Finger Lakes.

The lakes mainly are linear in shape, each lake oriented on a north-south axis. The two longest, Cayuga Lake and Seneca Lake, are among the deepest in America. Both are close to 40 miles from end to end, but never more than 3.5 miles wide. Cayuga is the longest (38.1 miles), but Seneca the largest in total area. Seneca is the deepest (618 feet), followed by Cayuga (435 feet). These largest lakes resemble the others in shape, which collectively reminded early map-makers of the fingers of a hand.””

Interesting exercise!


56 posted on 12/27/2014 9:41:43 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Pontiac

I’m not a New Yorker but vacationed there for years and always thought of “Upstate” as starting roughly north of Poughkeepsie.

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57 posted on 12/27/2014 9:49:20 AM PST by Mears
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To: SeekAndFind

Your nephew needs some help here.
Check in Texas if he has his law degree can he be a coporate attorney?


58 posted on 12/27/2014 9:51:54 AM PST by Kozy
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To: Kozy

RE: Check in Texas if he has his law degree can he be a coporate attorney?

He got his law degree from the University of Southern California ( Pre-law bachelor’s in UCLA ). He passed the bar in both California and NY.

I think he’ll have to pass the Texas bar to be able to practice in that state.


59 posted on 12/27/2014 10:20:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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