I think he'd make a great Bond personally, and think there's more relevant things to worry about:
Posted on 12/25/2014 8:54:25 AM PST by NKP_Vet
Liberals everywhere were outraged this week after Rush Limbaugh said a black man playing James Bond would be “ridiculous.” The comments were made on Tuesday in regard to leaked Sony emails that revealed that CEO Amy Paschal wanted the black actor Idris Elba to play James Bond. Rush, however, wasn’t having any of it. “James Bond is a total concept put together by Ian Fleming. He was white and Scottish. Period. That is who James Bond is, was,” the conservative radio show host said. “But now [they are] suggesting that the next James Bond should be Idris Elba, a black Briton, rather than a white from Scotland.” “That’s not who James Bond is and I know it’s racist to probably point this out,” he added. Liberals everywhere are outraged by these “racist” remarks, but what do you think about it? Sound off in the comments below!
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A blond 40 year old woman playing Louis Farrakhan or Rev. Wright would be interesting... And a Korean could play MLK - I'm sure the NAACP wouldn't object.
You can back the first and still think it is a wrong and stupid thing to do.
I think he'd make a great Bond personally, and think there's more relevant things to worry about:
If a Black actor is the most popular actor in Britain you can know it is because of PC. We have to love him he is Black and Black is better in every way than White. We are taught that constantly by the media and just like Pavlovian conditioning, they have been taught to believe what the media wants you to believe.
That is why we have a Black Muslim President with a Muslim name. The average fairly dumb American thinks that has just got to be the perfect man. So they voted him president despite him never accomplishing anything on his on.
I’m sure liberal PC Hollyweird will give you your wish. If it happens the movie will be a bust. Movie studios are in the business to make money. If they were so sold on a black man to play James Bond, Denzel Williams was available 20 years instead of Pierce Brosnan.
I’m not that worried about it. If someone is going to make a movie about it and make money from it, that is their business. I can choose to see it or not.
It is, after all a movie.
But, there is more to it than just finding a cool role for a supposedly popular actor who happens to have a different skin color. It panders to the “Well, the role of (insert role here) has never been played by a man/woman/hispanic/black/asian...” and lends credence that there is value in that pandering approach, as if diversity is valuable in and of itself.
Add to that the hijacking of someone’s work who cannot speak for themselves because they are dead and gone.
For all we know, Ian Fleming, if he knew, might be just fine with it. Or not. Who knows? It is a given the Ian Fleming would be completely on board with any and all technological advances that have come about since he wrote his works. Of that there is no doubt. It fits completely with the character of his work.
But one cannot reasonably speculate that Ian Fleming would approve of a woman in the role. Or a black. Or a hispanic. Or a homosexual. Or anything except the character that he created and described in great detail.
But people want to make money off of his concept, and aren’t honest or creative enough to create their own character or series...they have to use HIS (Ian Fleming’s) work and make their money off of that. That is what I disagree with.
I can tell you that Ian Fleming would be very angry at a Black man playing Bond.
He was about what everyone else was in his day but that would be considered racist today. In the book “Dr. No”, he described Dr. No’s henchmen as “Chigroes”. He said they had the intelligence of the Chinese and the brutality of the Negroe. He did have one positive Black in the book, Quaryls.
The Broccoli family had done mostly right by the Bond name, and are more responsible for Bond being a household name than Fleming himself.
Also, I doubt that Fleming would have been on board with Moonraker and it's ridiculous cashing in on Star Wars. I'd also like to think he'd disapprove of the stupid invisible car from Die Another Day.
Who in the hell is Denzel Williams?
The difference is that you think there is value in the creative process and that someone else can’t or shouldn’t take something you make, reshape, market and make money off of it regardless of something you specifically thought provided intrinsic value to that thing.
It is as if someone took a Chevy Volt, changed some styling and marketed it as a Ferrari.
I have no doubt that when Ian Fleming wrote Casino Royale, he didn’t just put pen to paper and write. He probably gave long, deep thought to the main character, who he was and why he turned out the way he was. It is integral to the story.
However, there are a lot of people (including many on FR, surprisingly) who feel that the life work of a man can be can be used as a social tool to make some kind of cultural statement.
See? A black man can be Bond, too.
Well, we all know from our experience of black men who have served our country in many roles including the military, that when it comes to fighting, resourcefulness, dedication, and intelligence, they could fulfill a Bond-like role.
But that does not make them Ian Fleming’s character. They can be someone else, just not his character.
He's got a show on the BBC called Idris Elba, King of Speed, where he races and drives expensive exotic cars, and he's played tough guy roles in all sorts of stuff going back to The Wire. He reminds me of a Bristish Woody Strode.
I don’t disagree at all. It is difficult to imagine that he would have felt anything other than revulsion at some of it, never mind someone like Roger Moore playing Bond.
On one hand, the Bond movies have drifted so far from the tone of the original Fleming stories that you could probably have a transgendered Inuit paraplegic play the lead character and get away with it.
On the other hand, the character Fleming created was a composite of himself (not a black guy) and a dozen or so folks he knew of in the spy trade (none of whom, as best I can tell, were of anything other than the Caucasian persuasion):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspirations_for_James_Bond
I think that, for me, it boils down to the detestation of the common practice today of saying something is another thing, while either knowing full well it isn’t, or not caring to know.
And you just made an idiotic statement. Ten times the man than American actors? Bull Crap!
It sounds like you have a crush on him and very possibly have been indoctrinated by the media into thinking just because he is Black, he must be great.
I don’t know who the guy is or anything about him, and I wouldn’t have any issue at all seeing him in some film if he can act well.
I will say, though, I think your picture is going to get pulled. I don’t think we can post Getty images here at FR due to copyright limitations.
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Have fun with all that.
Interesting factoid, he's actually older than Connery in real life.
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