NO PITY FOR THE LAZY!!! and no charity either...
Posted on 12/21/2014 5:32:07 AM PST by Libloather
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“It is not the right time for Vermont” to pass a single-payer system, Shumlin acknowledged in a public statement ending his signature initiative. He concluded the 11.5 percent payroll assessments on businesses and sliding premiums up to 9.5 percent of individuals’ income “might hurt our economy.”
Vermont’s outcome is a “small speed bump,” said New York Assembly member Richard Gottfried, who’s been pushing single-payer bills for more than 20 years. But opponents says it’s the end of the road.
“If cobalt blue Vermont couldn’t find a way to make single-payer happen, then it’s very unlikely that any other state will,” said Jack Mozloom, spokesman for the National Federation of Independent Business.
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NO PITY FOR THE LAZY!!! and no charity either...
Notice there is little to no news about ObamaCare?
My own theory is that the Leftists (many disguised as Republican Congressmen and Senators) want thing to die down for a few years before their big push for single payer.
Vermont’s problem is that it cannot print money. However, the feds can tap their federal reserve buddies on the shoulder and either print up or borrow trillions of dollars, saddling future generations with debt while debasing further the currency. Leftists, being economic ignoramuses, think such a plan by the feds, would be viable. Even Dick Cheney said deficits don’t matter, so the Right is not without culpability.
The mouth breathers supporting single payer health insurance are very interesting.
Their latest hysterically funny comment is about costs and taxes. To the average Joe who pays for both costs and taxes there is virtually no difference between the two - both take money out of his wallet and reduce his ability to provide for his family.
In the article one of the single payer advocates tried to separate the two as if you could raise them without hurting Joe’s wallet.
It just about happened here in Maine. The gubmint plan to fail was called Dirigo...(now toast)
Even Gruber couldn’t cook the books enough to make this mess fly. But he still collected a hefty fee.
Vermont got Grubered!
“Vermont has the additional advantage of a harsh enough climate that they aren’t overrun with freeloaders from all the third world garbage cans. IOW, it failed because most of the freeloaders who made it fail were of the home-grown variety.”
You almost have that right, the climate comment is spot on, the freeloader part not so much. The Cambridge Mass over- educated elitists moved in here in the mid seventies to use Vermont as a test bed for Marxist policy pushes ( i.e. the absurdly named Conservation law Foundation ). With them came the New York southern tier liberals ( Bernie Sanders, Ben and Jerry and the like, a lot of secular NYC Jew and old money Stanford Conn elite kids with their trust funds and mommy and daddy’s vacation home to live in ). They brought their liberal attitudes and voting practices with them even though they have never scrapped to eke out a living in a harsh ( both physically and politically ) environment like VT.
As of now Vermont has over 140 social welfare programs ( more than any other NE state ) for the freeloaders to avail themselves. During the welfare reform of the Clinton years Vermont charted its own path and refused welfare reform thus creating an influx of takers mainly from Mass seeking greener pastures that has devastated public education in Southern Vermont and added greatly to the entitlement burden state wide.
Vermont prior to the mid seventies was very conservative and its survival is thanks to its independent conservative roots. The guidance of the state constitution casts an imposing shadow over the very liberal legislature and executive. Also having a citizen legislature that only meets four months a year helps.
Call it what it is. Government run, socialized health care, paid for by the taxpayers. The non-working classes get their health care "for free." The quality of health care for the taxpayers declines.
If you want to see a doctor, get in line behind the welfare bums, who are typically there for a runny nose or a headache.
Compare it to having the government take over housing - forcing everybody who once lived in single-family homes in the suburbs to blighted inner-city housing projects.
Slightly off topic, but I read this gem in an old Readers Digest:
Some years back, when a survey team came out to the Vermont/New Hampshire border, they were approached by a Vermont native, who asked what they were doing.
They explained that they were readjusting the border and the Vermont resident now lived in New Hampshire.
"Thank God" he replied, "I couldn't take another of them Vermont winters!"
Vermont has the most lenient gun laws in the country.
FWIW, I grew up near the western shore of the Red River which marks the boundary between North Dakota and Minnesota. When the Army Corps of Engineers made some channels in the oxbow to speed the flow of the river in the 1930s, it actually took an Act of Congress to recognize the new boundaries. North Dakota gained a few acres of territory overall.
No such act was passed when the Mississippi River changed course and, as a result, there is actually quite a substantial part of Illinois on the Missouri side of the river today as opposed to the reverse. As a result, Kaskaskia, the old Illinois Territorial Capital is on the Missouri side of the river today.
Beautiful state. Too bad what the libtards have done to it. My wife and I spent a week's vacation there over Memorial Day, 2011. We learned very quickly to take a short drive to New Hampshire for any substantial shopping.
It used to be that way. Now parts of Burlington and Winooski look like Mogadishu or Hanoi.
Yes.
Nah, not lenient we just don't have any.
BS. The local news actually covered this pretty well.
Nah, not lenient we just don’t have any.
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nice!
Maybe it was Massachusetts. :-)
Distantly related: We were traveling through Canada when they went metric. One radio DJ commented that a lady called in and asked if the winters would be colder under the new system.
I’m as glad that they tried as I am that it failed. The advantage of having state governments is that this sort of experiment may be made before “activists” attempt to force it on a federal level. Not that they won’t try, but at least we have evidence that it doesn’t work.
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