Posted on 12/17/2014 12:24:53 PM PST by PROCON
A Veterans Affairs psychiatrist cleared former Marine Bradley Stone of suicidal or homicidal tendencies just a week before he went on a killing spree, slaying six others and then taking his own life.
Stone, who had been in a child custody battle with his ex-wife, killed members of her family Monday. His body was found near his home in Pennsylvania on Tuesday with self-inflicted stab wounds and cuts.
He had a 100 percent disability rating at the VA for post-traumatic stress disorder and had seen his psychiatrist just one week prior to the incident, a VA spokesman told The Washington Times on Wednesday.
“He met with his psychiatrist on December 8th at the Coatesville [Veterans Affairs Medical Center], and the provider noted that at the time of the evaluation, the veteran was without any suicidal or homicidal ideation,” the VA statement said.
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Really, how is it possible for even a doctor to get inside the head of an individual and know his true state of mind?
If you knew what the average V.A. doctor looks like, this wouldn’t surprise you in the least.
It seems clear that psychiatry is not an exact science. But since that is so, why do parole boards give so much weight to psychiatric recommendations that releasing a convict won’t harm the community?
I have read that most vets are on numerous anti-depressants. Can someone confirm this?
Really scary. The cure was much worse than her original problems.
It's my experience they are just as professional and competent as my civilian docs.
Sorry you've had bad experiences.
Most? I doubt that. Hell, half the boys in public school are on Ritalin.
I’ve been using the V.A. as my sole provider (with the exception of a few years in the 90’s) since I got out in 1983. I have yet to have an American-born physician or P.A. And I’ve lived in a lot of places.
We will likely never learn the ‘crap’ that went on in the ‘family court’ hearings. It doesn’t surprise me that most of these guy killing sprees are from desperation and a feeling that they have the ability to manage their families removed. The male has over time been the family leadering individual and family courts think they can just yank that, lots of times, based on lies and crap from the wife’s attorneys.
For every crazy guy there are hundreds more than are eaten inside by the family destroying, feminist system.
While that's probably true, I believe the reason is that teachers don't want kids to be kids. It's too much effort. Kids are hyper and full of energy by their very definition.
Just MHO.
That’s one aspect of psychiatry that isn’t well understood—the psychotic potential of anti-psychotics.
What I’m saying, is that psychiatrists who recommend criminal release are like banks playing with taxpayer money. They have no skin in the game. For example, if a jail shrink recommends release of a Level 3 sex offender because he seems rehabilitated, it’s on the public next time he goes off. There’s no downside to the psychiatrist. In fact, he might be marked on how many patients he “cures.”
It’s a tougher issue with people who are free and might be loony. It’s more difficult (and should be, to prevent political abuses) to commit them because they MIGHT go off. But cons are proven bad actors.
The “psychiatrists” who work at the VA are not exactly Sigmund Freud. Then again ascertaining someone’s state of mind or real intentions is really not an exact exercise.
19 years in plus 4 years at military college. Never on anything stronger than Advil. Don’t know about others in my unit. But why would I? It’s confidential. My unit has a much lower rate of medication though as we’re aviation. Pilots don’t like being grounded. Nor do crew chiefs.
MrT5 worked as a veterans’ benefits counselor at the VA after being in the military for 30 years. If you could have heard what incompetence, laziness and just plain animosity toward veterans by some medical staff he and other benefits counselors dealt with, you would see just how possible that is...
I’m almost positive that psychoactive prescription drugs played a part in this. Doctors have to follow DSM-5 protocols for “insurance purposes” whether private or gubmint insurance….and DSM-5 is scandalously tied into the drug manufacturers….
This and more was revealed by Allen Frances, MD,who was Chair of the DSM 4 Task Force and outspoken critic of DSM-5. He is a former chair of the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Science at Duke University School of Medicine
If you can stand clicking on HuffPo, you can read his articles here.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/allen-frances/
It is not possible in many cases especially if the patient is smart and wants to be cleared. But the military is not the communion of saints. I knew plenty of guys in the Army who would not be permitted anywhere near my family but OTOH I would welcome them on my 6 in a fight. Go figure.
Routine is the name of the game.
Since there are about 23 million vets, no.
Every dollar given to a Veteran is a dollar the Democrats don’t have to buy Democrat votes.
Maybe he didn’t have such tendencies at the time of the meeting with the psychiatrist. Maybe he only had them later on.
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