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Unlocking the Origins of Snake Venom
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 12-15-14 | Jeffrey Tomkins, Ph.D.

Posted on 12/16/2014 5:52:03 AM PST by fishtank

Unlocking the Origins of Snake Venom

by Jeffrey Tomkins, Ph.D. *

The origin of snake venom has been a long-time mystery to both creationists and evolutionists. Interestingly, new research confirms that the same genes that encode snake venom proteins are active in many other tissues.1

According to the biblical record, God’s creation was originally void of death, disease, and violence. Because of Adam and Eve’s rebellion, the whole of creation became subject to a curse that resulted in snakes with venom, stinging arthropods, and countless diseases. One of the chief questions facing creation biologists and geneticists is how venom was manifested in the genomes and cellular biology of creatures. A new scientific model that explains this paradox is gaining credibility thanks to a variety of studies in different types of organisms.2,3 In this model, genes and their regulatory sequences have either been corrupted and/or lost through genome degradation to bring about scenarios in nature that seem to defy the original harmonious purpose of God’s creation.

(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; venom
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To: Salamander

From there, it’s not much more work to tack-on little legs, and voila! Salamanders!


21 posted on 12/16/2014 8:08:49 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Or...

:)

22 posted on 12/16/2014 8:34:12 AM PST by Salamander (The only things that last forever, are memories and sorrow.)
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To: Salamander

That’s inconsistent with the Gospel According to Gary.


23 posted on 12/16/2014 8:38:23 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

24 posted on 12/16/2014 8:47:21 AM PST by Salamander (The only things that last forever, are memories and sorrow.)
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To: Salamander

Somehow it never works-out the way you’d hope...


25 posted on 12/16/2014 8:53:10 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

It certainly explains my evil iPhone.


26 posted on 12/16/2014 9:06:53 AM PST by Salamander (The only things that last forever, are memories and sorrow.)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Rejecting someone’s interpretation that snakes and by extension all other predators were nothing of the kind until Man fell.”

Well, that particular notion is “someone’s interpretation”, but the idea that there were no carnivores prior to the flood is not. That is straight out of the plain text of the Bible, no interpretation required.


27 posted on 12/16/2014 9:31:27 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: fishtank
Snake venom (vipérine) used to be used in certain high-end spirits.

The alcohol reduced/eliminated the toxicity by denaturing those proteins, iirc.

28 posted on 12/16/2014 10:09:02 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Claud

Augustine -

- the ace of anti-Biblical allegory,

- the instigator of illogical logic,

- the excuser of Biblical revelation.

Gimme a break, I am so weary of Catholics and Protestants alike referring to Augustine as some infallible sage.


29 posted on 12/16/2014 10:31:10 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

30 posted on 12/16/2014 10:34:50 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

The point is not that he was infallible (he wasn’t).

The point is that he was the greatest Western theologian for a thousand years, and writing in an era (400s) way before modern science. So he can’t be accused of superimposing modernity on the text.

Another thing about Augustine. You study his “On the Literal Interpretation of Genesis” as I have the last few months, and you immediately get a sense of his humility before the text. He offers competing ideas, shoots some down, but is honestly not sure about others.

I wish modern commentators would be so humble. I can’t help but notice, for example, that you call him “unBiblical” as if your hermeneutic was the standard against which his should be judged.


31 posted on 12/16/2014 11:02:33 AM PST by Claud
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To: DuncanWaring; Salamander

32 posted on 12/16/2014 11:31:13 AM PST by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: Salamander

The Far Side was the best.

I miss it terribly.


33 posted on 12/16/2014 11:42:40 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

Yeah, that, and Calvin & Hobbes.

They don’t make comics like they used to.


34 posted on 12/16/2014 12:36:48 PM PST by Salamander (The only things that last forever, are memories and sorrow.)
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To: Salamander

Get your daily fix here...

http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes


35 posted on 12/16/2014 12:40:55 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: fishtank

Perhaps God’s point in making venomous snakes was this

http://science.education.nih.gov/AnimalResearch.nsf/Story1/Making+Medicines+from+Poisonous+Snakes

Amazing snake-y medical miracles are being discovered all the time.

Right now, there are people on FR whose lives are either being saved or maintained, courtesy of snakes, and they don’t even know it.


36 posted on 12/16/2014 12:41:26 PM PST by Salamander (The only things that last forever, are memories and sorrow.)
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To: SZonian

Augh!

I’ll spend days reading them, if I start.

Years ago, I bought my dad the huge, hard bound collector’s edition of C&H.

Nobody bothered to offer it to me when he died and I have no idea what ever happened to it.


37 posted on 12/16/2014 12:44:05 PM PST by Salamander (The only things that last forever, are memories and sorrow.)
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To: Salamander

;^)

Discipline padawan...but you don’t have to go back and read them all...a “new” one is posted each day...just check it once a day. They’re all re-runs anyway.

Sorry to hear of your dad...but he sounds like he was a “refined” man and could appreciate good humor.

I’m sure the book will turn up at some point...maybe go poking around their homes looking for it when you visit? ;^)


38 posted on 12/16/2014 12:52:15 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian

If I read one, I cannot stop. :D

The books are likely gone.

My mom had an auction that essentially wiped all traces of him from the earth.

They probably wound up in some box lot, along with all the other bird/animal/nature books I bought him over the years.

It was a great collection, many of them, out of print.

I am commonly forgotten by my human family.

Now you know why I cling to my critters.


39 posted on 12/16/2014 1:06:43 PM PST by Salamander (The only things that last forever, are memories and sorrow.)
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To: Salamander

Well, I at least attempted to give a disclaimer...so I am blameless if you spend days or weeks of your life reading them. ;^P

Critters will never disappoint...I can relate to the family behavior...


40 posted on 12/16/2014 1:15:14 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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