Posted on 12/13/2014 8:07:52 AM PST by rktman
We are entering a Stoned New World here, as Colorado entrepreneurs come up with new ways to make money in the new… ah… atmosphere… of tolerance. It’s also an interesting test case for longtime proponents of legalization such as myself, to see what happens when perfect theory encounters an imperfect world. Our first stumbling block is that the state-sponsored growers and sellers cartels have kept prices artificially high (no pun intended), so we still have a black market for the green herb. That also means, as we’ve discussed here before, that tax revenues are not meeting expectations.
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When you think booze, think thousands of years of Western Civilization, when you think Cannabis, think thousands of years of the Cannabis using areas, the strange and pothead like areas of the Middle East, and parts f India and the Orient.
There are reasons why the white man avoided adopting Cannabis as an intoxicant, from ancient Greece to the Crusades they avoided it, all until the 1960s, as Western man started his road to erasing himself and letting the world wash over him, and the Cannabis worm is now taking root, in the Western culture.
babble on brother, babble on. And enjoy your booze.
The ability to make your own beer hasn’t damaged the beer industry. And it’s legal to grow your own in CO, and yet they say the prices are high. The fact is growing and brewing are both a lot of work, not everybody wants to put that much effort into things. Which is why restaurants exist. There will ALWAYS be a market for letting somebody else do the work.
If you think that was babbling, perhaps you should lay off the drugs, or whatever addled your mind.
I’ve got a friend that just did a harvest. He says it was tons of work. Keeping things going in the greenhouse was the easy part. The aging isn’t too bad. It’s the trimming that just kills it. Plus of course you need good seed, those aren’t cheep. Truthfully in this day of Mr Beer homebrewing is much easier than growing your own pot, faster too.
I was in the grocery store last night and while leaving passed the smell of pot.... i hate pot smell. Smells like two skunks makin woopie.
So repeal will be on the ballot in 2016? Who’s organizing the petition?
I don’t know how many people your friend is trying to supply, or how commercial his operation, or what a drug dealer calls “a lot of work”, but I have been around pot growing and it was easy and is the kind of activity people will love to do when it is legal, beer making is more complicated and few people want to do it, or keep doing it after trying it.
There is a reason that a few illegals can raise vast pot crops in the forests.
People need to quit pretending that pot plants are some complicated plant totally different than the routine gardening that is common to millions, including our old grandmothers and grandfathers.
The legal limit in CO is 6 or 7 plants per person and I think it’s 3 people in his household (though 1 isn’t partaking, but she still counts for the household limit). And it’s more work than he’s willing to do for money. Having seen the process on TV I wouldn’t do it. Way too much looking at small stuff. People won’t love to do it. A large quantity of medical growers bail on it after one harvest.
Beer making is EASY. Especially now. Just order a kit from Amazon, boil some water, pour it in, wait. I know at least a dozen home brewers. I know 1 home grower, and he doesn’t want to do it anymore.
Pot plants aren’t complicated. Harvesting is. It’s not like routine gardening.
Stoners don’t like grooming and caring for their plants?
Good Beer making isn’t easy, especially in hot climates, it is why I quit doing it, and it must be done constantly and in large amounts for beer drinkers, pot grows like any ordinary plant, it stores well and has a great shelf life.
Having been around both, if it wasn’t for moral considerations I would grow pot even if I couldn’t sell it, and I don’t smoke it, I would just grow the pot the same way that I like growing tomatoes, except for looks rather than harvest.
I can’t believe that you guys want to pretend something that is laughable, guys will love growing pot when it is legal, and they will compete for quality, and every party will have guys showing up with a big bag of their bragging rights weed , during parties the stoners will be out in the back yard discussing the plants, apartments will have them in pots on the patio.
Sorry but I’ve got multiple sources telling me growing pot is hard and you saying it’s easy. I’m going to believe the multiple sources. And since I myself have participated in brewing I know it’s pretty easy, even BEFORE Mr Beer.
Believe what you will, but my data says you are quite simply 100% wrong on both counts.
Colorado is moving in the direction of being our present day “Idiocracy”
Since I have done both and you haven’t, and yours flies in the face of reality, well, claim what you want to
The demands of keeping myself supplied with home brewed beer was overwhelming, and is for almost everyone, I personally have never known anyone who used home brewing as their permanent source for beer, but I have known many people who keep an abundance of pot from growing it themselves, for years.
I don’t even know if you consider yourself as growing superior tomatoes, if not, then the procedure would sound pretty complicated to you, when in reality it is simple and quickly becomes routine gardening knowledge.
Go up to the average gardener and tell him that you want him to try to grow decent pot, it won’t be a big challenge for him to incorporate a couple of new plants into his gardening world, then ask him why he gave up making beer after the novelty wore off.
The west does have a long history with cannabis. The British navy would have never ruled the waves without abundant hemp. Even now, the US Navy is the biggest American customer for hemp which we buy from Canada.
Read the post, you are responding to something that wasn’t said.
“”There are reasons why the white man avoided adopting Cannabis as an intoxicant””
Again multiple sources vs you. I believe the multiple sources. Especially when I know first hand you’re just plain wrong about beer. Then there’s this:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19609_5-horrible-things-nobody-tells-you-about-legally-growing-pot.html
And of course in the long run is doesn’t matter. 90% of the service industries in America exist doing stuff we can do for ourselves, but we don’t. So even IF growing and processing pot was easy (which it is not) people would still PAY for somebody else to do it for them. The same as they pay people to cook for them, clean for them, walk their dogs for them, build their furniture for them, do their driving for them, fix their cars for them, and all the myriad other stuff of varying levels of difficulty we opt not to do ourselves.
Do you make your own beer for you and your friends?
The Colorado marijuana law will be on the ballot again, this time for repeal.
A very astute, conservative, attorney in Denver has a daily talk show. He is going to be a prime moving force when the repeal occurs.
Colorado voters will repeal it by a significant margin when this happens.
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Federalism in action. Let states experiment, rather than wrecking the entire country.
I have assisted friends at various stages. It ain’t tough. Most of what you need is room and will. And thanks to Mr Beer
http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Beer-Premium-Edition-Brewing/dp/B001BCFUBU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418506748&sr=8-1&keywords=mr+beer
you don’t even need that much will anymore. Back when I first learned I was in that crowd (pre-internet) it was rougher, recipes were hard to find, methods were handed down from person to person. Now there’s multiple stores in Tucson that sell the supplies. Not to mention dozens of websites. On a 1 to 10 scale home brewing is maybe a 2. It’s just ain’t that tough.
I like that "when you think thing". Hilarious to think that booze was a Western Civilization construct. You really think that? You clearly have little knowledge of the origins of al-kuhul. Booze-addled minds might note that the consumption of many things such as chocolate or tobacco did not take place until trade routes were opened. Consumption of cannabis followed trading on the Silk Road and was widespread in your Western Civilization shortly thereafter.
Booze-addled minds like to think that alcohol is not a drug and therefore not associated with the "drugs are baaaad" mentality. But we all know that most can consume booze responsibly. Most. Some do not and make a mess of things.
As US citizens realize the Nanny Staters seek to control others the idea of freedom takes root. We should be free to make decisions for ourselves and take responsibility for ourselves. Again a concept that booze-addled minds are slow to grasp.
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