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First when looking at just pay as some of these articles do they ignore the role of health care cost inflation has played in suppressing take home pay and income. I am lucky if my marginal yearly pay increase compensate for increased health care premiums/costs.
1 posted on 12/13/2014 6:44:02 AM PST by C19fan
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My observation is every technological/economic/societal change has hurt the middle class and redistributed income to the capital owners and overseas. For example, the so-called Robber Barons created industries that employed millions while a firm like Google I believe employs directly something on the order of 10,000 workers.


2 posted on 12/13/2014 6:46:14 AM PST by C19fan
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First when looking at just pay as some of these articles do they ignore the role of health care cost inflation has played in suppressing take home pay and income. I am lucky if my marginal yearly pay increase compensate for increased health care premiums/costs.

I grew up in the '50s and '60s. Each and every year my Dad moved up the chain a little bit w/o big promotions, etc. Over a few decades, he went from struggling to being comparably awash in disposable income. Over the last 10 years, I have been lucky to maintain status. The Left calls this "progress".

Destroy the Middle Class and they will effectively destroy Freedom as we once knew it.

3 posted on 12/13/2014 6:50:00 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Well, we have a President who is a fumblebutt. The Democrat Party is run by leaders who talk bad about the country. Why would anyone build factories in this country?


5 posted on 12/13/2014 6:55:22 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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The middle class is being destroyed by the leftists on purpose


7 posted on 12/13/2014 6:59:55 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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Big government is the biggest drag.

Doesn’t solve any problems (in fact, has a vested interest in prolonging them) and makes everything cost more.


8 posted on 12/13/2014 7:00:08 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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For at least 50 years our democrat and republican politicians have sold our industry down the tubes for financial contributions and kickbacks while lying to us, telling us how hard they are working to save our jobs and economy.

They have repeatedly passed free trade agreements like NAFTA and given tax breaks and financial aid and assistance to other countries to help them compete with us and eventually kill our own industries.

Finally, we now have squatting in the White House, the only politician who has been somewhat honest about his true objective.

Barack Obama has told us that his goal is to fundamentally transform America.

That is what he is doing and he is being aided and abetted in his efforts by democrats and republicans.


9 posted on 12/13/2014 7:00:42 AM PST by Iron Munro (D.H.S. has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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It’s a gross oversimplification to try to blame healthcare cost increases for this. When your dad and mine were working in the 50’s and 60’s, only a small percentage survived a heart attack, and breast or colon cancer was an automatic death sentence. You’d end up with a new wheelchair instead of a new knee or hip and people died or suffered from a host of diseases we don’t even hear about nowadays.

On the other hand there have been many other factors affecting paychecks. Not the least of which is the flattening of the world resulting from advances in transportation, logistics, and communications. I can sit here in American designing things in collaboration with a colleague in Europe that will be built by a factory in China and sell them anywhere in the world through a website that costs less than what people in the 50’s and 60’s spent on their landline phone bill.

The challenge for America is to apply the spirit that has made us the greatest nation on earth, using the assets and capabilities we now have to create the next growth curve of prosperity. But it’s a lot easier to sit around bitching and moaning about how things aren’t the same as they were 50 years ago.


18 posted on 12/13/2014 7:13:17 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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I’ll take policies which dictate energy prices necessarily skyrocketing for $500, Alex.


19 posted on 12/13/2014 7:18:22 AM PST by BillyBonebrake
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thought about all the people who had ever stared at that moon. Kings and queens

And the princess and the prince discuss, what's real and what is not.

30 posted on 12/13/2014 7:52:56 AM PST by MUDDOG
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50 YEAR OLD CARTOON PREDICTS THE FUTURE !!! NWO !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_se8c-wN35M


31 posted on 12/13/2014 7:53:29 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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In 1970 one in 21 was foreign-born; today, it is one in 8, the highest in 90 years; and within a decade it will be one in 7, the highest in our history. There were 9.7 million foreign-born in 1970 and today it is 41.5 million.

Importing over a million legal permanent LEGAL immigrants a year since 1990 and 640,000 guest workers annually provide a surplus of labor that takes jobs from American workers and depresses wages. It is as simple as that. The labor participation rate is the lowest since 1978. Immigration, legal and illegal, is destroying the American middle class and the American worker.

33 posted on 12/13/2014 8:05:59 AM PST by kabar
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The War on Poverty™ defeated the middle class.


34 posted on 12/13/2014 8:09:35 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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This WaPo article is automatically dismissed by me because not once does it mention illegal immigration and idiotic free trade deals like WTO and NAFTA


40 posted on 12/13/2014 8:26:33 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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“the middle class is being destroyed by the leftists on purpose”

Don’t blame the Democrats. Blame the Democrats and the Republicans. Ross Perot warned us and we didn’t listen.

The GOP has been enthusiastically supporting sending manufacturing overseas, for a couple of decades. And look how GOP is standing up to Obama on amnesty for low-wage illegal immigrants here at home (they AREN’T standing up to him!).

Don’t blame the Democrats. Blame the Democrats and the Republicans. Ross Perot warned us and we didn’t listen.


41 posted on 12/13/2014 8:29:52 AM PST by WilliamIII
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the jobs required to sustain the middle class went overseas with the push from bjclinton and walmart

the result will be a few at the top managing the workers and everyone else fighting over the few jobs they will permit us to have.

if you try to start a company, therefore employ some people, the dems will do everything in their power to snuff you out.


45 posted on 12/13/2014 8:36:14 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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People who are $15-20 dollar an hour ($31,200-$41,600) workers feel they need to be paid 25-30 ($52,000-62,400) an hour these days. They have this entitled attitude. I deal with it every day...they are not any better than 15-20 an hour yet they demand it or leave when they don’t get what they want...they lack skill sets, education and work ethic. But dammit, they deserve more money regardless!

AND these are the same people driving the 25k vehicle, with I Pads, I phones, computers, living in 150k houses....over extended and in debt.


55 posted on 12/13/2014 9:03:19 AM PST by oust the louse (The Democratic Party might as well be called the Death Party. Abortion & ObamaCare/death panels.)
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Yep. In the last 4 years our monthly premiums have more than quadrupled and our deductible has gone from $500 to $5,500. We are swimming in medical debt and slowly going under.


59 posted on 12/13/2014 9:15:52 AM PST by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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EPA, NRLB, OSHA, NBLM, FTC, FDA, NIOSH, ICC, federal income tax, FICA employee, FICA employer, disability tax, federal unemployment tax, Mediacre tax, state income tax, local income tax, school income tax, property tax, local sales tax, gas tax federal, gas tax state, etc...

THAT NAMES JUST A FEW!!!

Now list the alphabet soup of benefits available if you don’t work.


60 posted on 12/13/2014 9:25:58 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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