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Unbelievable in LA. Huge fire downtown smoked a brand new building under construction. Total loss!

Downtown freeways 110 and 101 were shut down this morning.

1 posted on 12/08/2014 12:53:08 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

I wont count out arson just yet.

the accelerant sniffing dogs should know soon enough.


2 posted on 12/08/2014 12:54:26 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: goldstategop

Its clear that global warming induced drought has caused this....


5 posted on 12/08/2014 12:56:28 PM PST by PGR88
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I blame Mrs. O’Leary’s Cow.


6 posted on 12/08/2014 12:57:42 PM PST by dfwgator
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Why is this from the BBC? LAT too busy covering protests?


7 posted on 12/08/2014 12:58:24 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: goldstategop

Bush’s fault.


12 posted on 12/08/2014 12:59:47 PM PST by wny
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Who cares...They collect insurance, a win win..

As if LA needs another building, a gaudy condo monstrosity, more traffic or strip mall for more taxes for the corrupt running LA and on and on...

Leave it bare gets my vote.


14 posted on 12/08/2014 1:00:01 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: goldstategop

Arson in a new building is a real possibility. How was the project funded?

Often times, especially in private ventures (small LCCs with investors), commercial loans and funding is contracted well before construciton starts. The goal is to lease space and book the revenue before construction is complete. In this way, there is often an early indicator of the money that is going to be lost if leasing is not going well or if costs are out of control. The best time to recover the total value of the investment (or the last time) is before the fire sprinkler system is functional. A Builder’s Risk insurance policy usually covers the up to the value of the contract. (Not necessarily the land).

If you want out of a deal that is a forecasted loser, this is your best hope to cut losses. Otherwise, per the contract language of the mortgage, investors have to maintain a debt/equity ratio in an account that is autditable by the lender. This means, you, as an investor could be shoveling money into an account to keep up with losses for some time.

I’m not saying or accusing of arson here. But I would not be surprised. It has happened before. And it can be hard to investigate, especially depending on what stage of construction they are in.


18 posted on 12/08/2014 1:01:16 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (POTUS shall now be referred to as POPOF. President Of Pants On Fire.)
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"..hmmm..the reporter is "hot"....bath her and bring her to me"

46 posted on 12/08/2014 1:31:04 PM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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Happen to be on business here in LA area and drove right past it on the I-110 at 11Am here. A smoldering, stinky mess they were still hosing down. Must have been a big fireball at its peak. The other similar building still ok.


47 posted on 12/08/2014 1:31:49 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: goldstategop

Ferguson?


52 posted on 12/08/2014 1:51:15 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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In the video report, it was stated the fire officials didn’t think the two fires were related.

Same night
Same area
Roughly same type of property under new construction or renovation
A lot of protest activity bringing the loons out from under the woodwork as of late

Connection seems likely to me, but they must have some reason for not thinking so. Perhaps they feel that if they say no, the perp will feel emboldened to try again. Perhaps they think they can catch him easier.


53 posted on 12/08/2014 2:11:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne (GOP. GOPe. GOPeGads! GOPeWWWWWWWWWWWWW...)
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How many subsidized apartments were scheduled to be part of the complex? Maybe it was self-defense by a concerned citizen wanting to live to see a few more birthdays.


56 posted on 12/08/2014 2:45:34 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: goldstategop
The Fireman's Prayer always comes to mind:

When duty calls me, oh Lord,
Wherever Flames may rage,
Give me the strength to save some life
Whatever be its age.

Help me embrace a little child
Before it is too late
Or save an older person from
The horror of that fate

Enable me to be alert,
And oh Lord, guide my every move,
For life is so precious,
Please don't let us lose.

I want to fill my calling and
To give the best in me
To guard my every neighbor
And protect their property

And if according to thy will,
That I must give my life,
Then with thy protecting hand my Lord,
I pray thee, protect my children and my wife.

Amen

May God keep our firefighters and first aid responders and their families safe as they attend to the noble calling of saving our lives and property.

81 posted on 12/08/2014 11:22:52 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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