Posted on 12/06/2014 12:25:57 PM PST by FreeReign
It wasn’t a chokehold.
That’s just the biggest single distortion in all the talk about the Eric Garner case, in which the public has been misinformed and misled from the start.
The Rev. Al Sharpton has never had to put himself in harm’s way to protect our streets against crime, as our police officers do every day. He’s in no way qualified to stand on his soapbox and dictate procedures. I spent decades in law enforcement. During my time with the NYPD, I was responsible for over 1,400 felony arrests — any of which could’ve required the use of deadly physical force. Volunteering to be a decoy cop in the 1970s, I was the victim of more than 500 muggings, about 30 of which injured me seriously enough that I was hospitalized. I wound up in countless physical situations and was always able to get the perp into cuffs.
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Exactly.
Actually he was selling his tax free cigs in front of a store that sold cigs. They called the police to remove him...and I would do the same if some street thief were robbing me of my business.
The IRS destroys evidence against itself. If you or I do that we get at least 5 years in jail. Obama thuggery everywhere yo look.
I bet the kings of corruption in Wall Street, the bank kingpins and fatcorps are rolling on the floor...
Those in the IRS will get raises and extra days off paid...
Close down the corrupt fedgov and they’ll all get even more paid fedgov days off....All paid back.
That’ll teach um.
That particular problem is why you don’t transport obese suspects who are in maximum restraints in the face-down position. It’s a known issue.
Corruption is everywhere today....street thieves lack the aptitude to cover their tracks....rather continue to show their ignorance instead.
Where would the arm around his neck rank in list of reasons? Serious question.
An arm obstructing the windpipe blocking air to the lungs would be one reason. But the coroner dismissed that. An arm obstructing the arteries to the brain a.k.a blocking oyxgen to the brain would be another. I'm not sure such an apparently common "submission hold" for 15 seconds on a healthy person would cause a problem. But Garner as has been pointed out was not healthy.
Pretty low is it wasn’t squeezing his windpipe.
He was breathing when the ambulance took off with him.
At the worst, I would say the exertion and shortage of ‘oxygen’ led to a stroke.
Blaming it just on the ‘choke hold’ is ignoring all the other factors. For all we know, he could have had a stroke even if the officer never put the ‘hold’ around his neck.
Diabetes, asthma, heart disease, obesity, he’d just been involved in a physical struggle (supposedly he broke up a fight), then his pulse and everything else rose as he argued with police.
IF the officer had used a taser , as many have suggested, it probably would have caused him to have cardiac arrest, given his condition.
In other words, the officer couldn’t win no matter what he did (other than just letting Garner walk).
The black female officer, who like the other officers, knew Garner WELL, could have interrupted and told the officers to give Garner his ‘inhaler’ (everyone keeps ignoring this part of the incident, and I don’t know why. Don’t all asthmatics carry an inhaler ?).
She didn’t but the media won’t touch that with a ten foot pole. Perhaps he doesn’t carry one, I don’t know.
All I know is that when an asthmatic gets exerted, they can’t breath. If they don’t open up their airways, the brain is starved of oxygen. At some point, it quits telling the heart to pump. This matches the timeline and video/descriptions of the Garner incident.
He was unresponsive yet still breathing, very shallow. He was likely unconscious. The body was trying to speed blood from other parts to the brain, in an attempt to get oxygen, further straining the heart. After he got into the ambulance it was too late.
Were they giving him oxy in the ambulance ? Did they try to revive his heart with a defibrillator ? Details we don’t know (or at least I don’t).
Because the alternative always leads to dictators and concentration camps.
You can hear him tell the cops...go away...stop bothering me...almost...I dare you...
Being obese injures more kills more, and costs more. Gonna charge fat people 1300 per month for health care?
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What wrong with people who watch their weight and don’t smoke playing less? Actually, government regulation has tended to keep insurance rates from reflecting risk.
The difference between you in your scenario and the cop in the Garner scenario is that you are required to walk away from a fight while a cop who is making an arrest is tasked with completing the arrest.
You bet....The poor slobs on the streets make real easy targets, and have no political or financial muscle. Even when exposed, the fatcorps pay off your elected eloquent elite and walk away withholding trillions in tax dollars while lecturing all about the wonderful benefits of the free market...
This is actually a pretty common event. People in bad health get a big dose of adrenaline flowing while they’re fighting with the cops, then once it wears off, they crash. It just played out a little faster than usual with him, probably because he was in bad shape even for a guy in bad shape.
Only in Movies, TV, and Professional Wrestling.
There is a difference between a hold designed to control you and take you to the ground, and a hold designed to cut off the flow of blood through major arteries around your neck. Cutting off air is not what makes a person tap out.
Regardless of the cause. Let’s not play the redefinition games.
The real cause was that Garner was an asthmatic. Exertion causes asthma attacks. You can't get oxygen into the lungs, ergo it can't go to your brain, and when that happens, eventually your heart stops.
The real cause was that an obese man with heart disease and diabetes overexerted himself arguing and struggling with police, right after allegedly breaking up a fight (this was according to the 'friend' who video'd the incident). It is entirely possible that had the officer NOT used the chokehold, but still managed to fight Garner to the ground, that Garner would have succumbed to a stroke anyway.
sign should read “I CANT THINK”
Not a choke hold huh?
A grand jury cleared the white police officer Wednesday, although the city medical examiner ruled Garner’s death a homicide and found that a chokehold contributed to it. (AP
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