Posted on 12/02/2014 8:51:08 PM PST by SoConPubbie
Hardline conservatives who have caused problems for leaders for years were not falling in line. These conservatives estimate their ranks are 30 to 40, enough to derail a vote.
That swelling Republican opposition gives Pelosi and her down-in-the-dumps House Democrats some unexpected power: the ability to rescue Boehners Republican Conference as Democrats have again and again in the big fights of the past three years.
If Boehner cuts that deal, it will serve as a warning that Boehner intends to do precisely as some have predicted, abandon House Conservatives next year and rely on moderates and Democrats to govern weakly, to the extent he can. That stands in stark contrast to Democrats and former Speaker Nancy Pelosi who seemed to relish shoving bills like ObamaCare down America's throat, GOP opposition be damned.
So after a big election victory this fall in which Republicans took the Senate and strengthened their grip on the House, instead of Republicans uniting around their own leaderships plan, they are about to risk giving more control to Pelosis shrinking Democratic Caucus. It makes Boehner allies cringe.
Pelosi (D-Calif.) has been coy about where shell fall she and her allies have sent signals shell oppose the measure but her circle says shes mulling over her options. Its clearly a touchy situation for Democrats. Steny Hoyer, Pelosis deputy, told POLITICO in the morning he might support the measure, but later in the day, he walked back his statement.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
And those short term tax rates will be next years Democrat bargaining chip.
House moves to extend tax breaks
to end of year benefiting millions
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/03/house-moves-to-extend-tax-breaks-to-end-year/
Republican leadership are all a bunch of fascist/socialists just like their democrat friends.
You don't get to make those rules for other people.
I will fight liberal republicans in the general election, too.
/johnny
DO IT!
(Gee, I sound like that Dr. Gene Scott fellow selling religion back in the 80's).
That is CERTAIN and I will do my part to ensure such an outcome.
From there it will be all downhill.
Go ahead Boner, we call your bluff.
We double-dog dare you.
” Yup. There are a few of us that were 100% dead nuts correct as to what would happen if conservatives re-elected Jonbon and Mitch.
We are ALSO correct about where the loyalties of their vocal sycophants of the lesser evil persuasion. they are every bit the liberal traitors that their heroes are. People should, by now, notice a direct correlation between FRs liberal wing and the increasing domination of liberal Republicans in the political right.
I mean its hard to deny the obvious. Every time the liberals in DC want something, a certain readership on FR posts loudly and often about keeping powder dry, lesser evil and what offenses to God and all his angels that purists are.
They demanded Romney. They demanded Jonbon and Mitch. They demanded Perry. They demanded EVERY liberal republican that the GOP ran and did all in their power to thwart third party talk and even condemned people that advocated sticking to principles.
They got what they wanted folks. Remember their names. Youll see them do more of the same in the future. Here and elsewhere.”
Suitable for framing!
I’ve said for four years that if a third party was started and a majority of the house republicans switched, Boner and the rest of the rinos would ban with the democrats and create a “modern” majority and elect Pelosi speaker.
I’m with you, Norm. Just because the republican party won the last election that does not mean conservatives won. Conservatives are out numbered in this country by about 80 to 1.
And it’s even worse in the congress. There are about 40 true conservatives in the house and only about 3 in the senate. That’s 43 out of 535. That’s 8%. They can’t accomplish much.
As for the 20% of the voters, we could accomplish something if we stick together and stop voting for rinos.
In case anyone missed this very cogent take on why the GOP behaves as it does.
A Schizophrenic Elephant
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3050931/posts
Here’s the direct link to Daniel Greenfield’s article:
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2013/08/a-schizophrenic-elephant.html
We should be watching what they do and not giving people credit for ‘talking tough’.
I am disappointed to hear he waited, he must not really be as anti ILLEGAL ALIEN as he says he is.
I will not vote for a RINO.
Congress has the power of impeachment, the purse and a gale force wind of support behind their duty to stop Obama, yet the pubbies will roll on their backs, in the hope Obama rubs their bellies like the good dogs they are.
It is delusional to think congress cares what the people think.
You said,
“Less than a month ago WE gave the GOPe, which ran on nothing, a congressional majority not seen in eighty years.”
Really?
Somehow I seem to remember lots of folks who celebrated their “purity” by promising to NOT vote for GOPe-endorsed candidates in that election.
And doesn’t that mean that “WE” cannot honestly claim credit for the landslide?
And, sadly, doesn’t THAT mean that there are not enough of us for our threats to be taken seriously?
Shouldn’t we threaten less? And teach more?
JSDude1 wrote:
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So whats your suggestion then? Dont vote? Let the Dems Control Congress, Run as 3rd Party Candidates, PRIMARY THEIR A&&ES?
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Admittedly, there’s no easy answer here. But one thing’s for certain... Voting in RINOs every election cycle simply isn’t doing a damn thing to restore our Constitutional Republic.
She doesn’t need them. Nancy is surely lacking in the brains department, but she has larger cojones than Boehner could ever dream of having!
I knew as soon as Boehner was reelected speaker we were in trouble.
I never, ever vote for a liberal republican.
/johnny
We need to get enough members to help throw overboard that weeping lush out of the Speaker’s chair and replace him with someone who has a backbone.
Boehner is not fit to be Speaker of the House if he does this deal.
IMO p for considering it there should be a new vote in the conservative caucus to determine a leader.
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