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Police shut down mysterious 'Oath Keepers' guarding rooftops in downtown Ferguson
St Louie Post Dispatch ^ | November 29, 2014 | Jesse Bogan

Posted on 11/29/2014 3:29:48 PM PST by Second Amendment First

Police questioned group members early in the week and allowed them to stay. But Saturday, after an inquiry by a reporter, St. Louis County Police officers ordered the Oath Keepers to leave the rooftops.

Threatened with arrest for operating without a license, the volunteers argued but eventually left their positions early Saturday morning, Rhodes said.

"We are going to go back as protesters," Rhodes said Saturday afternoon.

Rhodes, who said he is Mexican-American, stressed that Oath Keepers is not anti-government. He said the group volunteers pulling rooftop security in Ferguson were current or former government employees and first responders, many who have intense military, police and EMS training.

“We thought they were going to do it right this time,” Rhodes said of government response to the grand jury decision released Monday night in the Darren Wilson case. “But when Monday rolled around and they didn’t park the National Guard at these businesses, that’s when we said we have got to do something.

“Historically, the government almost always fails to protect people,” he added.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: banglist; darrenwilson; ferguson; missouri; oathkeepers; secondamendment
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To: ex91B10

“Just more posturing by more slaves too scared to have the courage of their convictions. “

It certainly seems that way. If I went out somewhere with a gun no one would take it away from me. Big IF there. I WOULD NOT GO OUT INTO ANY SITUATION WITH A GUN AS A PROP!


41 posted on 11/29/2014 4:36:28 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: SpaceBar; Second Amendment First

Beggar: Leu?
Clouseau: What?
Beggar: You say, it's against the leu?
Clouseau: Yes. Unless you have a proper license.
Beggar: What kind of license?

42 posted on 11/29/2014 4:48:24 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: marktwain
"Anyone can volunteer to help another person without being paid."

That would be my only question in this matter. I'm guessing that MO, like virtually every other state licenses and regulates the private security industry. While the merits of doing so can be debated, if that is the case, and if any of these oathkeepers took any kind of compensation to stand guard over a certain structure or business, then they would in fact, be undercutting every other private security company in the state that complied with all the red tape and licensing.

My understanding is they were all volunteers, and if so, I agree with everything else in your post. If I want to go stand guard in my neighborhood after a hurricane, and I'm on my neighbor's property at their invitation, no license should be necessary.

43 posted on 11/29/2014 4:48:50 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Second Amendment First
Threatened with arrest for operating without a license

A license to do what, exactly? Issued by whom? Approved by whom? Overseen by whom? How does one apply? What are the criteria for approval? For denial? For renewal? For revocation?

This sounds like the usual 'permit' excuse used to shut down parades, lemonade stands, bake sales, you name it.

It sounds officious and is obviously used as a threat but isn't it a case of police misquoting, misapplying the law or simply making it up?

44 posted on 11/29/2014 4:51:09 PM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: Logical me

It’s Oathtakers vs. Oathbreakers, son.


45 posted on 11/29/2014 4:51:23 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Second Amendment First
Further proof, if further proof is needed that the authorities wanted a riot. and also more evidence, if again more evidence is needed, that the police have switched from protecting the law abiding Citizens to controlling the law abiding Citizens.
46 posted on 11/29/2014 4:51:40 PM PST by sport
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To: Califreak

That is a sucker bet.


47 posted on 11/29/2014 4:53:53 PM PST by sport
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To: ex91B10

What did you expect them to do? Get into a fire fight with the police?


48 posted on 11/29/2014 4:54:41 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Lazamataz

For evil to win, good men do nothing, but it happens faster when good men to bad things...Like shutting down Oath Keepers,


49 posted on 11/29/2014 4:55:56 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: old curmudgeon; Second Amendment First

Notice that the about-face came AFTER a reporter asked questions...

Hmmm..


50 posted on 11/29/2014 4:56:39 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: WildHighlander57

Yep

I guess the presstitutes are an arm of the just us department now?


51 posted on 11/29/2014 5:00:57 PM PST by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S./CDC=Contagion Distribution Center)
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To: SoFloFreeper

So..do these people have a license?

http://www.inquisitr.com/1638935/black-residents-armed-with-assault-rifles-stand-guard-outside-white-owned-business-during-ferguson-riots/


52 posted on 11/29/2014 5:01:24 PM PST by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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To: gaijin

The law abiding citizen is the one they[ the police] want to control. They are the ones that pays their salaries. they are the ones that, through their labors which are taxed to the braking point, keep the Government operation. they are the ones that the police will use deadly force against to control. The police care nothing about controlling the criminal and parasite element. There is no benefit to controlling them. It is the law abiding tax paying working citizen they intend to keep their boot on the neck of.


53 posted on 11/29/2014 5:01:31 PM PST by sport
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To: Lazamataz

I guess I need a “License to Operate”

Wallet-sized card.


54 posted on 11/29/2014 5:18:53 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s /s /s /s /s, my replies are "liberally" sprinkled with them behind every word and letter.!)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Yeah, it is time for all of us to get our License To Operate cards.


55 posted on 11/29/2014 5:21:10 PM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Deciding Female Criminal Guilt By How Hot They Are Since 1999 !)
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To: Scrambler Bob

On the other hand, perhaps we should all Operate Without Licenses.


56 posted on 11/29/2014 5:22:56 PM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Deciding Female Criminal Guilt By How Hot They Are Since 1999 !)
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To: Second Amendment First

There is not a bad situation that will not be made worse by involving the police. And that includes rioting.

If armed citizens were allowed to take out a few of the perpetually offended you can be damn well sure that the looting would have stopped RIGHT NOW.


57 posted on 11/29/2014 5:23:50 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: OL Hickory

But they are “his people” - take your pick the guy in the White Hut or over at Dept of Injustice.


58 posted on 11/29/2014 5:24:08 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Lazamataz

I'm in!

59 posted on 11/29/2014 5:25:05 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Democrats have a lynch mob mentality. They always have.)
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To: ex91B10

I am not convinced that the reports are accurate. This may be an effort to discredit Oath Keepers (OK) or conservatives in general, or it may be an error. I’ll wait for more information.

http://www.kmov.com/news/local/New-state-law-prevents-any-Missouri-city-from-banning-open-carry-282092131.html

You can lawfully open carry anywhere in the state, and you can lawfully carry on private property with the owner’s permission. The police had no authority to intervene, and I suspect OK leaders knew that. There are a lot of options that could have led to this report and would not reflect badly on OK.


60 posted on 11/29/2014 5:25:47 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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