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1 posted on 11/23/2014 7:14:06 AM PST by nathanbedford
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2 posted on 11/23/2014 7:18:20 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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The American dream is to be able to worship as you please. Hang on to this dream


3 posted on 11/23/2014 7:20:19 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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BLAME
-free trade
-abortion
-open borders immigration from the third world
-immigration from the third world is OK if it is small and legal


4 posted on 11/23/2014 7:22:25 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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Too many words.


5 posted on 11/23/2014 7:22:54 AM PST by Tax-chick (Science wants to kill us.)
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Looking beyond the 2014 election and the 2016 election as well, as demographics continue to run against us, the Senate will also increasingly trend left.

Precisely. BUT if the Seventeenth Amendment were repealed as suggested in Levin's great book "The Liberty Amendments" - using a Convention of the States and ultimately being ratified by the states - the Senate could be returned to a state where it more closely reflected the will of the states just like you argue the House currently does.

An Amendment to Restore the Senate

As discussed briefly in the previous section, it is imperative that we repeal the 17th Amendment which allows for the popular election of senators. After generations of progressive efforts to re-define the governmental and societal structure of America, it has become commonplace for the people to refer to our nation as a democracy. In short, democracy is mob rule, and is in no way better than a dictatorship. Our government was set up with checks and balances in an effort to curtail all forms of tyranny, including that of the many over the few. The Reign of Terror is an historical example of the ‘unintended’ outcome of democratic governance that Americans would do well to investigate more closely.

Critics of a republican form of government will disingenuously equate it’s nature to the current manifestation of the Republican party, knowing full well that the term means something else entirely. The terms republic, republican, democracy, and democratic, as used here have vastly different meanings that are no longer common knowledge.

In addition to restoring the Senate to its intended status as a representative of the individual state governments, Levin’s proposed amendment allows the state legislatures to remove a senator by two thirds vote if they fail to uphold their duties as a representative of that state. This allows for a more direct balance of power between the state and federal governments and provides an additional curtail to the power and encroachment of the federal government.

6 posted on 11/23/2014 7:23:26 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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Soon, within the lives of most of us the American Dream will die and slip away because hard-earned American dollars will have been transferred to illegal aliens.


7 posted on 11/23/2014 7:25:23 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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It's clearly obvious that the president is becoming increasingly desperate and this latest move is being done to increase the Democratic Party base.

However, the only prediction anyone can make regarding the future is it eventually comes. It's going to take alot of teaching by conservatives and that is going to take people who can talk around the press to turn this around, if it is even possible.

Watching the GOP leadership roll on their collective backs for Obama isn't hopeful in the short term.

8 posted on 11/23/2014 7:25:52 AM PST by LMAO (("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush))
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We can either grab hold of the remedy supplied to us by the framers of the Constitution and embark on reforming our government according to conservative lines through the Article V process or we can passively watch the crackup.

Author omits a third remedy.

9 posted on 11/23/2014 7:27:55 AM PST by Salvey
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Nathan, I would like to agree with you but I cannot. Your writing reflects an underlying belief that the American dream is all "politics". It is not.

It is partisan politics that are killing the once-great America. Politics are cynical. They kill the faith and love and trust of our people for one another.

God, work, productivity, family, and personal character are the things through which we can rebuild and retain the American dream.

Massive prosecution of the fraud, greed, and corruption would be a good start to renewing our people's faith in our country.

10 posted on 11/23/2014 7:29:15 AM PST by Rapscallion (Americans are led by a vindictive snot. He is here to destroy America. He cannot!)
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We have lost the culture and the nation's K-12 single-payer and socialist-entitlement schools have played a large part in this destruction of culture.

It only took one to three generations of K-12 compulsory-use and single-payer schooling to give the nation two Roosevelts and Woodrow Wilson. Each election continues the swirl down the toilet.

Children who attend compulsory-use and socialist-entitlement schools risk learning to be comfortable with socialist compulsion as voters. Gee! If the voting mob can give a child tuition-free schooling, can't that same voting mob give a citizen **lots** of “free” stuff?

Also....The government's single-payer, compulsory-use, and socialist-entitlement schools have never been more than lukewarmly and generically Protestant. Today the religious worldview that is preached in every textbook, assignment, and school policy is godlessness. The children attending these schools **will** learn to think and reason godlessly. They must if they are to cooperate in the classroom. How could it be otherwise? No one should be surprised then that our churches and other cultural institutions have been corrupted.

The rot that we see manifested politically Is primarily spiritual and requires actions on several fronts. The godless and socialist indoctrination of our nation's children is merely one. We must rescue the nation's children from this godless and socialist environment. Unless conservatives do this, I doubt there is any hope of restoring the Constitution.

11 posted on 11/23/2014 7:29:18 AM PST by wintertime
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Foreigners will cease to buy LT Treasuries at 4% ... if the annual deficit continues, the rates will rise ... to 8% to 10%, adding interest to the debt. If FED uses more QE to buy the bonds, increased money supply triggers inflation.

Bottom line, the runaway spending will stop, but what type of DEM party will take the place of the current one.


12 posted on 11/23/2014 7:30:37 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
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I have to disagree. We patriots haven’t lost yet. To be sure, there’s a lot of work we need to do to pass American values to the generations that follow us.

Let’s remember that “The American Dream” is not about wealth. It’s about the happiness we create by exercising our freedom.

Meanwhile, the “left” wants to demoralize us, to persuade us to just give up our fight.

I won’t give Soros that satisfaction...


14 posted on 11/23/2014 7:37:16 AM PST by pfony1 (Let's welcome some Democrat congressmen into the Republican party and OVERRIDE!)
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The American Dream at one time always began “With hard work”. It hasn’t for some time.


16 posted on 11/23/2014 7:38:48 AM PST by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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There is a solution outside of Washington in an arena untainted by many of the influences which render conservatives impotent in Washington and that, of course, is in our state legislatures ...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You solution is merely giving Tylenol to a patient dying of fulminating infection.

The underlying disease is spiritual.


17 posted on 11/23/2014 7:40:13 AM PST by wintertime
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Good post!
But unfortunately, America IMO is under judgement. The constitution was written for a moral people. USA is mystery Babylon.
I do believe that while we are here solutions such as article 5 need to be tried.
We need to seek out like minded Christians for fellowship and support. The mega churches and institutional churches are lukewarm Laodicean churches for the most part.
We also need a plan B for a new exodus; a place for God fearing people to go and start a renewed Western Christian society. I do not believe in the pre-tribulation rapture, and I believe that many of the prophecy scholars have been quietly moving away from this idea.
The US is a big country with a big government; it will not be a pleasant place when the hammer strikes.


21 posted on 11/23/2014 7:57:15 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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Obama just gave turned 5 million illegals into democrat voters. this dictator has no authority to do this. it's all about giving them work permits then allowing them to vote. he's got no authority to give them work permits etc. The Constitution makes the presidency a weak office only to execute the LAW as written by Congress to the letter not to modify it or give work permits to illegal aliens who broke the law

it's probably 3 times that much.

government /socialism doesn't work. even Lenin and socialist China turned to “state capitalism” : that is still mosty capitalism (privately owned businesses). the economies where most of production is owned by government collapsed rapidly , Cuba, China, cambodia , N korea, n vietnam etc. why do stupid liberals/democrats think government can work? government is unnaccoutable.

25 posted on 11/23/2014 8:24:17 AM PST by Democrat_media (call Congress 202-224-3121 to stop Obama's executive order for Amnesty for illegals)
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Slipped away long ago.


27 posted on 11/23/2014 8:35:47 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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Sadly, many people are terrified of true freedom because it includes the freedom to fail. Then there are the greedy people always wanting a handout. Those two groups together often create a majority.

The fundamental problem is the misalignment of morality and practicality. In America past before the new deal, it was both moral and practical to work hard and be self sufficient. The price of not doing so was hunger, cold and general misery. Today, of course it is still moral to behave that way. But increasingly, it is no longer practical when there are so many entitlements to be had. So, morality and practicality have diverged.

What will it take for morality and practicality to realign? Short of a religious (moral) revival, I fear an enormous economic collapse will start the realignment. Government will be unable to alleviate the suffering, and only then will a lasting majority of people realize they cannot rely on government. Practicality will then be defined once again as hard work and self sufficiency...but only after much suffering.

28 posted on 11/23/2014 8:42:43 AM PST by matt1234
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The leaders of the Democrat Party and the Democrat voters have a perceived symbiotic relationship. They both believe they have power over the other. If the Republican Party can show that they can provide a MORE beneficial relationship to the Democrat voters, then the Democrat voters will come over to the Republican Party.


29 posted on 11/23/2014 9:04:12 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Nope. Demographics aren’t changing that dramatically. The cycle continues on as it has for over a century. A few weeks ago was the typical 2nd midterm blood bath. 2 years from now will be the typical “screw these guys” changing of which party is in the White House. The amnesty won’t change that, it’s not nearly enough people to overpower the mushy middle. Those are the folks that really decide elections, and most of what the mushy middle thinks is that who ever is in charge this week are idiots.


33 posted on 11/23/2014 9:17:43 AM PST by discostu (YAHTZEE!)
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