Posted on 11/21/2014 9:51:50 AM PST by fruser1
Aside from the pouting and lawsuits that won't amount to anything, nothing is going to happen to stop Obama's decree on immigration.
Why? Because, as RINOS, McConnell and Boehner want what Obama wants.
They really don't give a hoot about this, but to console their base, they feel obliged to step out and shake their fists.
This is just an attempt to shut-up those extreme TEA party types.
That's all that's gonna happen here. What do you think?
If they ignore their base, they can be voted out like Cantor.
It would not surprise me if obama walks all over them for the next 2 years.
Instead of leaving DC for holiday vacation Boehner should be calling them back in.
There is an enormous assault on the House of Representatives, the Constitution, and the rule of law, and Boehner is oblivious to the scale of the attack.
It’s scarcely two weeks since a historic victory and Republicans are squandering it. They MUST confront Obama NOW.
Yay more whining.
Maybe God just hates you.
I think between now and January 5, there isn’t a thing either can do, with the exception of the continuing resolution. At this time, the only thing ether can do is extend the CR by one month so that the new congress can take it up.
In that sense they take “daddy cannot buy my holiday presents because of the republican government shutdown” off the table. And with that, also remove funding for (insert agency here).
Hint: Obama is trying to goad the new congress into starting impeachment. The leadership knows this. Now what?
I think you’re right. I believe most of the gop-e is glad it’s done and they believe those against it will blame obama and democrats instead of them. mconnell said the senate’s job is to “fund” governmet. cochran says he will fund this “amnesty”. The’ll keep funding obamacare and everything else, agroup of gop-e Senators this week led by grham that included wicker collins ayotte and it looked like alexander said they didn’t want to appear to be Spposing obama. We’re so screwed. God help Senators Cruz, Sessions, Lee and their supporters in the Senate and thank God for Louie Gohmert.
Good luck trying to convince GOP Party hacks and loyalists of that fact.
The GOP leadership made it perfectly clear, but most Right-leaning Americans have acute cognitive dissonance when it comes to the fact that Obama's agenda IS THEIR agenda. The GOP Ruling Class has also made it clear that the Conservative 'wacko-bird' right wing nuts' they despise and are AT WAR WITH, now engaged in the all-out-assault to silence and relegate us into irrelevance.
It appears to me that Senators cochran, wicker and mConnell are sending messages they don’t intend to do anything after Jan. 5th
I’m counting on the GOP voter base in 2016 to follow the words of
Adm. Yamamoto:
“I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”
Good luck hoping on that when all the evidence is in that we have become a Fascist oligarchy and the Ruling Class will NEVER allow something like that to happen again.
I believe they will make some efforts in this case. I agree that their main concern is their careers and their power.
Losing their power is a serious problem for legislators of both parties.
I would like to see them go to the mat on this one.
Obama is willing to risk everything.
While it may not be illegal to do what he is doing, the legislature also have some things they can do that are not illegal which will counter Obama.
I keep wondering what would happen if the legislature would defund the government .?
shut the whole thing down for a year or two. No bureaucrats, no military, no courts, no welfare, no social security, no taxes, nothing. Of course the individual states would pick up the slack on administration and border protection. Churches could help out with the charitable causes. I believe it would be a chance for a new beginning to rid ourselves of the beast in Washington that is no longer functioning as intended.
The GOPe response is to pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill.
The past failure of impeachment led inexorably
to this. The failure now will lead to worse.
And yes, Obama and Romney (attacker of Gov. Palin,
and then the Speaker and Mr. Cain)
have RUINED America.
Impeachment is only half the battle, it’s the removal from office that we seem to forget.
As a result, when Democrat progressives do something that Republican progressives think goes too far too quickly, they get annoyed and argue with Democrat progressives. Politely and knowing their place, for the leadership of the progressive party is clearly within the Democrats, and Republican progressives are merely those on the fringes asking to be heard with their suggestions.
However, when conservatives pop up, and their goal is not to work with Democrat Progressives to implement their goals, but to stop Democrat progressives, and then to tear down what progressives have done to our country lo these 100+ years, then it provides a chance for the Republican progressives to prove their chops to Democrat progressives. "We've got this", they tell their Democrat leaders, and then they tear into Republican conservatives like they were the enemies of all that is good and right. They fight, they name call, the dirty deal, they do whatever it takes, to keep conservatives from having any real power to affect policy in any way possible. To Republican progressives and Democrat progressives alike, conservatives are the enemy. They have goals, dreams and a world view that are antithetical to the progressives in both parties, and they ARE the enemy.
Boehner and McConnell are progressives. It's that simple. So, while they would not have done what Obama did, they do not disagree with the policy and they will argue with him about how he did it, but they won't say anything nasty and they won't do anything to undo what he did. They will do whatever they can to try to get the illegals to like them, to see that they are progressive, too.
There is an analogous relationship between so-called moderate Muslims and those who are actively following the teachings of their religion. Moderate Muslims don't want to behead their neighbors, and don't want to rape the infidels, but they will give only lip service to criticism when their co-religionists do it, and they are happy when new lands are gained for Islam. If you ask them, whether in Britain, the US or Germany, whether they would like sharia law to govern the whole world, over 90 percent would say yes. They just can't bring themselves to do the things necessary to bring that about, but they secretly applaud their fellow Muslims who do.
“Specifically, what do you want them to do about this?”
I don’t see why they can’t impeach him when the new congress comes in, other than that RINO bit.
I’m for shutdown as well.
In addition, or if that is not palatable, congress should subpoena the directors in the departments responsible for implementing the dictators will and directly inform them that they will be prosecuted for breaking the law if they act in line w/that EO.
Of course, they should follow up with those prosecutions as well.
I think its time to get serious about border security/enforcement and stop talking about amnesty. Amnesty is a shiny object that always distracts from the fact that the door is still wide open.
Leaving that door open is defacto amnesty. We deport illegals and they give themselves amnesty by walking right back in.
We’ve also got to stop dangling lures in front of illegals. People illegally here should not be eligible for any kind of federal aid or tax credits.
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