Posted on 11/19/2014 4:33:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
BOCA RATON, Fla. Texas Gov. Rick Perry said the Lone Star State might sue Barack Obamas administration over the presidents planned executive order to grant relief to as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants.
I think thats probably a very real possibility, Perry said during a panel here at the Republican Governors Associations annual meeting.
Perry, who is considering another presidential bid in 2016, said the cost of illegal immigration is extraordinary. He said his state spends $12 million a month on securing the border.
Perry remarked that state Attorney General Greg Abbott, who was recently elected governor, has described his current job like this: I go to the office, I sue Obama and I go home.
Will you be placing your bets that he wont?
Just which law will you place your trust in since this clown isnt following any law. The constitution? Really? With a congress that does not seem to care one whit about it either?
And yes, I place my trust in the consent of the people.
Regardless of your rhetoric, things are getting more conservative in the US. 2nd Amendment rights are more respected in every State, and abortion on demand is falling because States are making laws limiting the murder of babies.
/johnny
Sue? I say we secede.
Here is what should/could be done. The 30 some states that are willing to follow the founders ideals could get together and force those state out that will not.
And if the consent of the people is rebellion since the constitutional system has broken down?
If this clown pulls what he intends, and if the congress does NOT file impeachment, that will answer your question.
All the effn lawsuits in the world mean nothing unless they follow the supreme law of the land..or at least used to be.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.—Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.
False choice.
There are avenues that the States can take. Constitutional ones. This article is about the STATE, not federal congress.
And nothing can be done until he actually promulages an EO on illegal aliens.
Until then, he's living rent free in your head. And it seems to be working.
/johnny
that’s it. i agree that would work. email the governors of states, abbot, congress, states , Cruz etc. and spread it around
Would be nice to be ready with a plan of attack the day after tomorrow. Good thing there are people around to remind us to calm down and await for Dear Leader's proposal before shouting and waving our arms.....people like the adults in the room, Boehnerwolf and McDumbell.
Here's one I would trust...
What makes you think they would tell you about it, or announce it? Just because you don't see something, doesn't mean it's not happening.
Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.
/johnny
blah blah blah...
I’m not even the least bit sorry for believing this is a lot of gas...
Rick Perry’s carbon footprint is getting bigger by the minute...
I just don’t think even Greg Abbott, and the “new” team can stave off the inevitable...Not that they should not try...
We’ll just have to wait and see...Because in the end, that’s about all we can do at this point...
The Speaker and Majority leader (putative) are meaningless in this context.
/johnny
And where does naturalization fall? Not to the states I will grant you that. And that, is what this is about.
Immigration belongs to the states, and naturalization TO THE CONGRESS!
But, if he allows for more immigration, then he steps once again, on the states rights, in that, you have a point.
I suggest you re-read the constitution..but then again, there is no longer any constitution, so there is no point.
As for rent free? Ya I know. According to you, we should all wait till the C sucker completes what he intends to do, and has done. Let me know how that works out for you when the damage is done and you cant get it corrected. Obamacare ring a bell?
Have a nice time in your wait for the “proper” law to be enforced.
The States do have standing to get an injunction against unlawful EOs.
Much more standing than legislators do.
You have to wait for the EO before any action can be taken.
But you want a solution RIGHT NOW! That isn't going to happen.
/johnny
So in a discussion about an illegal amnesty, we are limited to discussing only what Rick Perry should do, and should not discuss what Republicans and/or conservatives should do? Please be clear on the boundaries so I know who to discuss and when it is ok to discuss them. I am already made to understand that we can’t wave and shout until after Obama has spoken. I need to know the other rules. Please help me.
I am advocating that a plan of action be in place and ready to go Friday. I am doubtful there is one, in part because Boehner and McConnell, and to some extent, Perry, support what Obama is doing, but want to pretend that they don't. Evidence of support is evidence of absence, too.
You seem quite antagonistic to a number of posters in this thread, and very supportive of Republican leadership. Why?
And I'm plenty fine on calling out liberal Republicans, and getting the bastards fired, if I can help do that, as I helped with Dewhurst.
I have NO use for liberals of any party. But this thread is about Texas, and what it can do. And arm waving about the federal (useless) congress isn't doing any good.
I'm doing my part by working to get Cornyn fired next election, and making sure that liberal bastard Perry will be replaced with a real conservative in January.
/johnny
Perry waving his arms and shouting. He didn't wait for Obama to act. He's getting ready to. Abbott will do even more, I wager, but at least Perry will lay the groundwork.
Arm waving in congress would be good if we had leaders who were opposed to Obama. Instead, they just pretend to be for our benefit.
Glad to hear you are doing your part to get rid of some of them. It's going to be a while before Cornyn is gone, though. The time to get rid of him was this cycle. If you worked against him, then good for you. Too bad he was able to bamboozle the good people of Texas one more time.
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