So there is a serious spec for spec challenge here.
But its beyond my powers to intelligently compare specs.
does anyone know cars well enough to go spec for spec with the internal combustion engine and musk's electric car the Tesla.
if true, this would be awesome
Cool!
Real tech, not the fake subsidized crap.
“Altogether the h-tron’s all-green drivetrain...”
“Green”....because I stumble upon pure hydrogen deposits all the time, and it takes no energy to get it.
The tricky part is getting the hydrogen.
Can you say “ Hindenberg”? In an accident that car will go off like a Roman Candle
Nice CYA there for a car based on an expensive fuel that is difficult/expensive to transport and ship.
Im just glad they didn’t master it back in 1945.
CC
Intuitively, hydrogen cannot be as efficient as electricity. This is because it takes electricity to make hydrogen by electrolysis (there are other methods but electrolysis is the main way to do it), and that process is only 50% efficient.
So the hydrogen can be thought of as an energy storage device, not unlike a battery.
So, it uses twice as much electricity....but, the advantage is that you can ‘fill up’ the car with hydrogen much more quickly than recharging a traditional battery. But always remember, that ‘clean’ tailpipe in a hydrogen car masks a dirty smokestack earlier in the process.
Also, it is incredibly difficult to ship hydrogen around, so there never will be a large scale network of hydrogen filling stations. So, the concept is you ‘fill up’ at home, with your own water and electricity.
Doesn’t seem particularly quick based on those specs. Seems odd to me to be quite honest. The only excuse for an electric car to be slow is range, and if you have a fuel cell and a fuel, that shouldn’t be such an issue. Could be the fuel cell technology needs a bit more work and is too heavy now.
0-100 KPH in 7.9 just isn’t fast at all.
I’ll wait and see. I can remember dozens of “we’ve mastered fusion” and “we’ve mastered superconductivity”.
Fuel cells are a far better alternative than a pure electric car. The Achilles heal of all electric cars is the battery. Batteries have a lmited range and take too long to recharge.. Imagine taking your electric car on a long trip and having to stop every few hundred miles or less and waiting an hour or more to recharge compared to a quick fill up of hydrogen.
I love my gasoline powered A6 but would consider an alternative fuel source vehicle.
Who can afford to buy an Audi?...
Just as soon as they get the hydrogen mines and the hydrogen pipelines in full operation, the idea becomes entirely feasible.
The supply and distribution of hydrogen is the big bottle neck now.
Hydrocarbon-fueled internal combustion engines are still the most highly developed and widely available propulsion system on this planet.
More’s the pity. This concentration of engineering capability has sort of stunted the development of other, and potentially much more efficient, means of providing independent propulsion power.
Personally, I would prefer to develop an EXTERNAL-combustion engine, with a full regenerative cycle, reclaiming most of the heat created by burning fuel, and coupling it to an hydrostatic pump system to provide propulsion to the wheel drive.
An example of an external-combustion power unit would be either a steam engine or a Stirling-cycle hot air engine.
We are in a position to launch the production process as soon as the market and infrastructure are ready.”
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Which means never. Yet another company playing PR tricks.
Hydrogen Fuel-Cell Cars Not Viable, Says Volkswagen CEO:
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1083046_hydrogen-fuel-cell-cars-not-viable-says-volkswagen-ceo
...The only reason some automakers are pursuing hydrogen technology is for marketing purposes, that lithium batteries are superior mass and volume-wise for a given range, and that fuel cells are too expensive, Musk capped it all off with the safety issue. "Hydrogen is quite a dangerous gas. you know, it's suitable for the upper stage of rockets, but not for cars," he said.
So, it's got mediocre horsepower, mediocre acceleration and a top speed that would have Corollas passing it on the Autobahn.
Nothing about range, either.
GM once held multiple patents on fuel cell technology, and could have had vision and cornered this market early - but didn’t.
Hydrogen is ALWAYS bound to other substances. Breaking apart the atomic bonds takes energy, as does compressing it, as does transporting it. While a hydrogen fuel cell will produce “green” emissions (i.e. simple H2O, water), the process to get to that point is highly energy inefficient. In other words, TANSTAAFL, tree-hugger fantasies notwithstanding.
We’re better off using oil as we do now, or going to LFTR reactors that will get electricity from thorium, and use a small portion of that energy to liquify coal into a petroleum-like substance that can be used for cars, trucks and aircraft.