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Gruber-gate gets to Obama: ‘No, I did not’ mislead Americans (Says the Liar in Chief)
Hotair.com ^ | November 16, 2014 | NOAH ROTHMAN

Posted on 11/16/2014 2:22:42 PM PST by Kaslin

All the president’s men could not shield the commander-in-chief from fallout surrounding recently uncovered comments made by Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber.

The health policy and implementation expert who worked closely on the Affordable Care Act and the Massachusetts health care reform law has backed the administration into a corner after it was revealed he repeatedly celebrated the misleading way in which the law was crafted and the “stupidity” of the American voter over whose eyes the wool was pulled.

“The fact that an adviser who was never on our staff expressed an opinion that I completely disagree with in terms of the voters is not a reflection on the actual process that was run,” Obama told reporters in Australia where he is attending a G-20 summit.

When asked directly if he or his administration had, as Gruber insisted, intentionally misled the public and oversight organizations like the Congressional Budget Office when they crafted the Accordable Care Act, Obama’s reply was terse and direct. “No,” he said. “I did not.”

Obama was joined on Sunday by Health and Human Services Sec. Sylvia Burwell who appeared on Meet the Press to distance herself and the administration from Gruber.

“I have to start with how fundamentally I disagree with his comments about the bill and about the American people,” she began emphatically.

Burwell was, however, not asked to respond to those comments. She was asked by moderator Chuck Todd about whether what Gruber said about “mislabeling” new taxes on health insurance plans as fees was true.

Neither the secretary nor Obama addressed Gruber’s charge directly because it is impossible to deny its accuracy.

It is not the first time the president has been pulled into a controversy over the implementation of Obamacare. After weeks of controversy following a cascade of Americans who lost their individual coverage plans which were not compliant with new Obamacare regulations last year, the president was forced to issue a personal apology.

“I am sorry that they– you know, are finding themselves in this situation, based on assurances they got from me,” Obama told Todd in the fall of 2013.

Just days after Obama issued this apology, however, it was revealed that the president was aware that millions of noncompliant plans would be cancelled. Despite his apology for the incorrect assertion Obama made on numerous occasions, that you could keep your plan if you liked your plan, the administration knew this was not true.

“That means the administration knew that more than 40 to 67 percent of those in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, even if they liked them,” NBC News reported.

Anyone who followed the Obamacare debate in 2009 and 2010 is already aware that Obama was not being truthful when he denied that the ACA was written to evade scrutiny. Though noting that it is an imperfect feature of the American system, intellectually honest liberals who support the law are already defending the lamentable practice of deceptively crafting legislation so that it avoids creating controversy.

So how long will it be before Barack Obama is forced to walk back his definitive declaration that he never knew the ACA was crafted so as to mislead the people’s representatives who passed it?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; barackobama; chucktodd; denial; gruber; grubergate; gruberingamerica; gruberobamacare; jonathangruber; obamacare; obamagruber; obamalies
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To: RginTN

When at Thanksgiving dinner with leftists be sure to have fun with this.


Oh, I intend to. I am also looking forward to Christmas dinner with them.


61 posted on 11/16/2014 4:56:59 PM PST by twoputt
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To: Thank You Rush

A simple amount of google will reveal that Gruber has a family, their names, their house(s). There is even a photo of the parrot, who is named.

I don’t want to go there. He has done a lot of damage to me. I have had my health insurance cancelled and had to renew it at great expense. I agree he is smug, and probably conspired with a group of uber-liberals who thought they were doing the right thing.

But I don’t want to track down his family. Or parrot.


62 posted on 11/16/2014 5:13:34 PM PST by realr
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To: Kaslin

“No, I did not mislead Americans.”

“No, I did not have sex with that woman.”

IMHO


63 posted on 11/16/2014 5:27:37 PM PST by ripley
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To: timestax

Thanks


64 posted on 11/16/2014 5:28:34 PM PST by sport
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To: Earthdweller

ping


65 posted on 11/16/2014 5:31:28 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: realr

“”I don’t want to go there. He has done a lot of damage to me. I have had my health insurance cancelled and had to renew it at great expense””

You truly have my heart felt sympathy . We are retired and have Medicare Advantage coverage and know that we will have the other shoe drop one of these days. I think all those involved in this lousy legislation made sure that the torture would be drip by drip by drip..to prolong the anxiety and suffering. They do not deserve to dwell among normal people.


66 posted on 11/16/2014 5:40:59 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Colonel Blimp

ping


67 posted on 11/16/2014 6:41:07 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: Kaslin
There he goes again! The Liar-in-Chief is at it again. He lies whenever is lips move. He cannot help it; it's just something that Kenyan born, Muslim educated, Marxist ideologues do. It's in their genes, right Bill Ayers? You know this fraud, Barry Obama, the best don't you?
68 posted on 11/16/2014 7:44:13 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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We now have irrefutable evidence that some members and close associates of our federal government are quite willing to deceive (defraud?) the electorate in order to achieve their political goals. They seem to justify their actions as being necessary for the good of the ignorant masses. Perhaps more telling is how society will deal with exposed deceit.

.....Obama is now denying Gruber played a significant role in designing Obamacare: “The fact that an adviser who was never on our staff expressed an opinion that I completely disagree with in terms of the voters is not a reflection on the actual process that was run.”

Obama also evidently believes the WH press pack is also stupid......he could be right....b/c not one reporter asked how such an unimportant adviser as Gruber got into the White House meeting during which the deceptive “Cadillac Tax” was concocted.....w/ Obama present...

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LET'S CONNECT THE DOTS---The salient point is this: Gruber acting as an independent researcher is one thing---but Gruber consorting w/ many people in govt figuring out ways to lie in order to dupe the tax-paying public is a CONSPIRACY.

POINTS TO PONDER:

<><> (1) WH sign-in sheets show Gruber went there at least nineteen times.

<><>(2) Gruber, himself, talked about Obama being in the room when the Cadillac tax was invented.

<><> (3) Based on his Obamacare experiences, Gruber took tax dollars from several states to set up Obamacare exchanges....and earned millions of dollars doing so.

<><>(4) Nancy Pelosi is caught on-tape citing Gruber as a reliable source.

<><> (5) Gruber was there when Hillarycare was developed.

<><>(6) Another Gruber confession involved a conspiracy w/ Teddy Kennedy's govt fraud---manipulating Medicare for some $500 million----to secretly finance Romneycare.

<><>(7) A former adviser to then-HHS Secy Kathleen Sebelius told the NYT Gruber was on-board whie the govt was formulating the plan.

<><> (8) According BarackObama.com 2012, President Obama's official website, Jon Gruber "helped write Obamacare....w/ specific quotes from Obama tying Mitt Romney to ObamaCare...saying that "RomneyCare" was the model for Obamacare.

<><> (9) The Congressional Budget Office Effectively Used Gruber’s Model to Score Obamacare.

In sum, the makings of a conpiracy are well-documented---Gruber had influence over the CBO, the White House, and Congress alike. It's hard to overestimate his importance; Gruber's role was central to the efforts of President Obama and his Democratic allies to shove Obamacare down an unwilling citizenry’s throat.

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I'M SURE VALERIE KNOWS (/SNIX)---Obama is downplaying Gruber's role, claiming he had no part in passing healthcare.

But if Gruber was NOT the Obamacare architect---then Gruber took money under false pretenses and should be prosecuted for govt fraud. He took tax dollars from the feds and state govts "posing" as an expert.

TAXPAYERS DEMAND CONGRESS GET ANSWERS WRT GRUBER'S CASHING-IN ON THE BACKS OF "STUPID" TAXPAYERS

Four U.S. states and the federal government (read taxpayers) have padded Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber's wallet to the tune of $5.9 million since 2000, including millions connected to his work on the Affordable Care Act.

We need investigations---to see how our tax dollars changed hands---and landed into Gruber's pockets. The disdainful, preening Gruber was paid tax dollars to spin his web of lies...and to reiterate his contempt for taxpayers who are footing the bills.

Even more disturbing is the massive, multi-billion-dollar slush fund the self-serving Gruber hid from "stupid" Americans in Obamacare. Gruber made dam sure it was kept hidden from us stupid taxpayers.

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The Untraceable $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget---truly govt fraud at its finest. Egged on by Pelosi, Democrats slavishly voted for Obamacare by an historic straignt-party line vote. But not one Democrat told Americans about Obamacare's Section 4002---which mandates an $8B untraceable fund to "promote" Obamacare (apparently b/c Boobamba had so little confidence in his signature legislation).

THE PAYOFF--WHO GETS THE MONEY? In 2010 Taxpayers are extorted $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion, and, in 2015 and on, $2 billion

<><> Where is all that money going?

<><> Was cashing-in the incentive in getting the thing passed.

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Taxpayers demand to know ---- why Gruber/Obama/Pelosi didnt reveal that Obamacare contains a multi-billion dollar slush fund?

Exactly who is cashing in?

The sound of West Wing wire-transfers to offshore banks is almost palpable.

69 posted on 11/17/2014 6:13:03 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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70 posted on 11/17/2014 1:14:54 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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71 posted on 11/17/2014 1:19:27 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: timestax
SIT ON THIS NBC

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72 posted on 11/17/2014 6:32:27 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: timestax

bump


73 posted on 11/18/2014 6:41:27 AM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: realr

I have actually heard a liberal admit “sometimes you have to force people to do the right thing”.

And yesterday, some clownmunist over at DU was gabbering about some “social contract” that I didn’t sign and forcing people to comply.

Amazing that they give such weight to this unagreed-upon “social contract” when there is a REAL contract between the States and the States-created entity called the federal government. It’s called the Constitution and it contains limits on the created entity’s power with special emphasis contained in the 9th and 10th amendments.

But they give that REAL CONTRACT no weight, and their made up “social contract” complete moral authority.


74 posted on 11/18/2014 6:48:11 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: timestax
Biased, insolent Press Media refuses to regulate itself. STILL INSISTS ON SPEWING OUT FICTION instead OF FACTS. And SITTING on SCANDALS. THEY Should RETURN all their salary.

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75 posted on 11/18/2014 12:12:35 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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